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Lueke
Junior member
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 Posted - 12/11/2010 : 05:41:53
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I am searching for emigration date and ship for Ellen Olsen or Ohlsen, born 1862 in Christiansand and emigrated to Minnesota in about 1880, give or take a few years.
She lived in Minnesota for about a year or two, then moved on to Dakota territory, where she was perhaps the first woman to homestead in that territory.
I'm also interested in information about her family. I have one postcard picturing two people, most likely her relatives from back home (both male). |
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charlesmatson
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 10:56:40
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An ancestry.com family tree has this information about a Ellen Olsen. Not sure if she is who you are looking for.
Ellen Olsen
Birth: Abt 1862 - Norway
Marriage: 21 Oct 1908 - Watertown, South Dakota, United States
Spouse: Edmond Beaudet
Good luck |
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peder
Advanced member
USA
835 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2010 : 12:04:42
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Household: (familysearch.org)
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Constance LEMAY
Self M Male W 51 CANADA Farmer CANADA CANADA
Felicity LEMAY
Wife M Female W 47 CANADA CANADA CANADA
Cecilie LEMAY
Mother W Female W 73 CAN. CAN. CAN.
Elmina LEMAY
Dau S Female W 24 MN Keeping House CAN. CAN.
Noel LEMAY
Son S Male W 22 MN At Home CAN. CAN.
Mary LEMAY
Dau S Female W 17 MN At Home CAN. CAN.
Telesphor LEMAY
Son S Male W 14 MN At School CAN. CAN.
Dulisse LEMAY
Dau S Female W 10 MN At School CAN. CAN.
Baptiste LEMAY
Son S Male W 8 MN At School CAN. CAN.
Lumena LEMAY
Dau S Female W 5 MN CAN. CAN.
Edmund BEAUDET
Nephew S Male W 12 MN At Home CAN. CAN.
Daniel GRAHAM
Other S Male W 27 CAN. Laborer CAN. CAN.
Peter ANDERSON
Other S Male W 51 SWED. Laborer SWED. SWED.
Surname
GivenName
Age
Sex
Race
Birthplace
State
County
Location
Year
OLSEN
ELLEN
17
W
MN
MN
TODD
KANDOTA
1880
Father ole olsen 46 b. norway
Mother-martha age 45 b. norway
Ellen age 17 b. Mn.
Many siblings
Surname
GivenName
Age
Sex
Race
Birthplace
State
County
Location
Year
BEAUDET
EDMUND
12
W
MN
MN
DAKOTA
MENDOTA
1880
Nephew (see 1880 census from family search above)
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Lislcat
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 19:19:18
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| Just wondering, what information you have that says she was born 1862 in Christiansand? It might make it easier to find records, if we have as much info as possible. :-) |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 22:42:39
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Further information on the Beaudet - Olson marriage from Ancestry.com. The only issue I would have is that the orginal document shows Ella Olson as a widow. Complicating things, is Olson her maided name or the name from her first marriage. It does say she was born in Norway and is 42 years old.
Name: Ella Olson
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Spouse: Ed Beaudette
Marriage Date: 21 Oct 1908
Marriage County: Codington
County of Residence: Codington
Post Office: Watertown
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Lueke
Junior member
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 05:17:53
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No, my great grandfather was Charles Garske:
Descendants of Ellen Ohlsen
1 Ellen Ohlsen b: Dec 1862 in Christiansand, Norway d: 03 Apr 1928 in Devils Lake, Ramsey, ND b: Dec 1862 in Christiansand, Norway
+Charles b: Jun 1855 in Deutsch Krone, Pommern, Prussia d: 26 May 1935 in Wausau, Marathon, WI m: 08 Sep 1884 in Dakota Territory b: Jun 1855 in Deutsch Krone, Pommern, Prussia aka: Charles Father: Ludwig Garske Mother: Charlotte Engelke
2 Otto Henry b: 07 Aug 1884 in Garske, Ramsey, ND d: 08 Jun 1954 in Ramsey, ND b: 07 Aug 1884 in Garske, Ramsey, ND aka: Otto Henry
+Amelia Elizabeth Zettler b: 26 Nov 1893 in Rock Valley, Iowa d: 10 Jan 1937 in Ramsey, ND m: 22 Mar 1916 in Devils Lake, Ramsey, ND b: 26 Nov 1893 in Rock Valley, Iowa Father: John Zettler Mother: Dorothea Mary Marcus
2 Charles Fred Garske b: 12 Nov 1887 in Garske, Ramsey, ND d: 26 May 1969 in Starkweather, Ramsey, ND b: 12 Nov 1887 in Garske, Ramsey, ND
+Edna Nash b: Jul 1893 in North Dakota d: 07 Dec 1968 in Starkweather, Ramsey, ND m: Mar 1917 in Devils Lake, Ramsey, ND b: Jul 1893 in North Dakota
2 Anna E. Garske b: Dec 1890 in Garske, Ramsey, ND d: 28 Dec 1928 b: Dec 1890 in Garske, Ramsey, ND
+Theodore Overbo b: 08 May 1880 d: 08 Oct 1973 m: 27 Oct 1916 b: 08 May 1880
2 William Ferdinand Garske b: 31 Aug 1893 in Garske, Ramsey, ND d: 22 Dec 1937 in Cass, ND b: 31 Aug 1893 in Garske, Ramsey, ND
2 Charlotte Garske b: 02 Apr 1896 in Garske, Ramsey, ND d: 11 Apr 1978 b: 02 Apr 1896 in Garske, Ramsey, ND
+Moses Samuel Erickstad b: 21 Nov 1888 in Sod house, Sullivan Twp., Ramsey, Dakota d: 27 Jul 1970 m: 20 Jan 1917 in Sullivan township, Ramsey, North Dakota b: 21 Nov 1888 in Sod house, Sullivan Twp., Ramsey, Dakota Father: Elias Peder Samuelson Erickstad Mother: Johanna Andrea Olsdatter Alhus
2 Henry Emil Arthur Garske b: 17 Jun 1898 in Garske, Ramsey, ND d: 06 Sep 1928 in Garske, Ramsey, ND b: 17 Jun 1898 in Garske, Ramsey, ND
+Ada Mae Rance b: 25 Nov 1900 d: 10 Mar 1988 m: 1922 b: 25 Nov 1900
2 Oscar Garske b: 22 Mar 1902 in Garske, Ramsey, ND d: 23 Nov 1902 in Garske, Ramsey, ND b: 22 Mar 1902 in Garske, Ramsey, ND
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Originally posted by charlesmatson
An ancestry.com family tree has this information about a Ellen Olsen. Not sure if she is who you are looking for.
Ellen Olsen
Birth: Abt 1862 - Norway
Marriage: 21 Oct 1908 - Watertown, South Dakota, United States
Spouse: Edmond Beaudet
Good luck
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Lueke
Junior member
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31 Posts |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 05:22:09
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Originally posted by Lislcat
Just wondering, what information you have that says she was born 1862 in Christiansand? It might make it easier to find records, if we have as much info as possible. :-)
I have a copy of her death certificate.
She died and was buried in the town where I was born, in North Dakota.
I'm looking for her ancestors, and siblings, if any, in Norway. We never heard about her life, but I do have that photograph that looks like it was taken in Norway.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 07:52:04
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No Ellen (or similar) was born in Kristiansand Dec 1862, and no Ellen Olsen/Olsdatter in the 1865 census either.
More research in US is neccessary.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 11:02:11
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A possibility. Birth-year is off by 1 yr, but place of birth is very close to Kristiansand.
Have you ever seen her with a middle name, middle initial?
Elen Marie Olsen
Birth: 02 DEC 1861
Christening: 10 JAN 1862, Høvåg, Aust-Agder, Norway
Parents: Ole Kristiansen & Inger Aasille Baerntsdr
Census-1865
No proof of emigration found though... |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 18:37:58
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Some statistics:
1900: Ellen Garake, born Dec 1862, imm 1880, married 1884
1910: Ella Garske, born 1863, imm 1881
1920: Allen Garske, born 1863, imm 1882
1925: Alla Garske, born 1864
Residence: Cleveland, Freshwater, Morris & Webster Tonwships, Ramsey, North Dakota
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Lueke
Junior member
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 05:32:03
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These all look like it could be her, with variations in spelling.
So I need to look for emigration records between 1880 and 1882.
I know that she married in 1884, the year her first child, my grandfather Otto Heinrich Ferdinand Garske, was born. Her homestead was next to that of Charles Garske, and well, they married (and later divorced). The homesteads were in Harding Township, Ramsey County, Dakota = later North Dakota. The census years look correct, because she died in 1928 - I have a copy of her death certificate. It IS possible that she came from a place near Christiansand. So, any emigration of someone her age from that area between 1880 and 1882 is where I need to look to find her.
With that in mind, how would I find a set of passenger lists that stopped there during that timeframe?
Sincerely,
Edith
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Some statistics:
1900: Ellen Garake, born Dec 1862, imm 1880, married 1884
1910: Ella Garske, born 1863, imm 1881
1920: Allen Garske, born 1863, imm 1882
1925: Alla Garske, born 1864
Residence: Cleveland, Freshwater, Morris & Webster Tonwships, Ramsey, North Dakota
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Lueke
Junior member
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 05:49:48
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Well, this is a possibility... many people's ages were off by a year or more in various census data, so this is a thought.
I have never seen a second name, so I'm going to see if I can get a copy of the wedding entry at Devils Lake, to see what is on there, if anything. I also know that she divorced Charles Garske, so perhaps there is some information on the divorce record, if not on the marriage record.
Sincerely,
Edith
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
A possibility. Birth-year is off by 1 yr, but place of birth is very close to Kristiansand.
Have you ever seen her with a middle name, middle initial?
Elen Marie Olsen
Birth: 02 DEC 1861
Christening: 10 JAN 1862, Høvåg, Aust-Agder, Norway
Parents: Ole Kristiansen & Inger Aasille Baerntsdr
Census-1865
No proof of emigration found though...
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Lueke
Junior member
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 06:12:22
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The photo I have of a man and two sons doesn't have any names on it, but the census does show that Elen or Ellen had two brothers.... so it would be interesting to find out what happened to these people - if that Elen Marie remained in the community, then she's not the right person...
Sincerely,
Edith
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
A possibility. Birth-year is off by 1 yr, but place of birth is very close to Kristiansand.
Have you ever seen her with a middle name, middle initial?
Elen Marie Olsen
Birth: 02 DEC 1861
Christening: 10 JAN 1862, Høvåg, Aust-Agder, Norway
Parents: Ole Kristiansen & Inger Aasille Baerntsdr
Census-1865
No proof of emigration found though...
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 09:46:00
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Maybe Christiansund was read as Christiansand, among the emigrants from Christiansund is Elen Olsdatter Lenæs, see #187, she is listed as "G" - married, but in the parish record she is posted as "Pige" and was given an attestation accordingly, see #8.
She is listed with her parents and siblings in 1865. Elen was born Nov 5 1863, her baptismal record is #147.
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Edited by - eibache on 14/11/2010 12:27:06 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 13:00:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Lueke
I have never seen a second name, so I'm going to see if I can get a copy of the wedding entry at Devils Lake, to see what is on there, if anything.
If you could find a copy of their marriage certificate, that could be of great value. Perhaps her father's name are listed. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/11/2010 : 19:42:55
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| Looking at the Norwegian emigration records, this Elen Olsdatter Lenæs is actually the only woman that fits all the criterias. But isn't she married to Anders Johnsen Lenæs? |
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Olsen or Ohlsen Christiansand to Minnesota
