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Dusty Nelms
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2011 :  16:46:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amund Olsen, son of Ole Johanssen and Anne Olsdtr., was born 14 Jan. 1837 at Skaarslien, Gausdal, Norway . Supposedly he married and had 6 children. It is said that he and his wife and two daughters drown while out sailing and that their other 4 children eventually came to State of Washington. 3 of those children were Iner, Carl & Thora. I'm looking for marriage date & place and to whom Amund married and for the birthdates and names of their children and if, possibly, if there would be an actual record of their drowning? Thank you, Dusty

jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 10/02/2011 :  00:20:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 10/02/2011 :  00:29:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1865 shows him married to Hilda from Sweden. No children.

Census-1875 shows him married to Hilda Sofie from Ystad (Sweden).

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 10/02/2011 00:32:35
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 10/02/2011 :  14:59:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jwiborg

Census-1865 shows him married to Hilda from Sweden. No children.

Census-1875 shows him married to Hilda Sofie from Ystad (Sweden).

Jan Peter

Thank you for your help and information. Can you tell me what a Postexpeditor is? -Dusty
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 16/02/2011 :  16:01:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do not know the Norwegian language and have been getting some words translated by using internet sources. However, I have been unable to get some of them figured out. Regarding the paragraph on Amund Olsen, I'm wondering if anyone can help me out with a few words contained in this paragraph, as follows: tillige amtskontoret hosten postdept.tet
direktionen fattigvaesen
Also, does "Kr.a" mean name of whatever word follows? Thank you to anyone who may be able to give definition to any of the above. -Dusty
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 16/02/2011 :  19:13:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Can you tell me what a Postexpeditor is?
- Postexpeditor = postekspeditør = mail clerk.

Maybe a translation of the paragraph to the best of my ability would answer your other questions:
"Amund Olsen, born in Vestre Gausdal Jan 14 1837, son of farmer Ole Johannesen, Skarslien and Anne Olsdatter, Kalstadrud.
He was employed at Lillehammer post office 1852 – 57 and worked in 2 ¾ year of this periode at the county office as well. In the fall of 1857 he became proxy at Stavanger post office. From the spring of 1858 to the fall of 1870 he was mail officer on steamers (1858 Kristiania – Bergen, 1859–61 Kristiania – København, 1862–65 Kristiania – Kiel, winter 1864-65 Bergen – Hammerfest, 1866-70 Kristiania – København.)
In the winter 1860-61 he worked at Horten post office as well and a couple of winters also in the General Post Directorate. From thereon he became manager of Kristiania railway mail service (Kristiania – Charlottenberg) and January 13 1883 he was appointed postmaster at Kongsberg. He was a member of the executive board for poor relief in Kongsberg and the same for Kongsberg savings bank."

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 16/02/2011 19:58:05
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 17/02/2011 :  01:32:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

quote:
Can you tell me what a Postexpeditor is?
- Postexpeditor = postekspeditør = mail clerk.

Maybe a translation of the paragraph to the best of my ability would answer your other questions:
"Amund Olsen, born in Vestre Gausdal Jan 14 1837, son of farmer Ole Johannesen, Skarslien and Anne Olsdatter, Kalstadrud.
He was employed at Lillehammer post office 1852 – 57 and worked in 2 ¾ year of this periode at the county office as well. In the fall of 1857 he became proxy at Stavanger post office. From the spring of 1858 to the fall of 1870 he was mail officer on steamers (1858 Kristiania – Bergen, 1859–61 Kristiania – København, 1862–65 Kristiania – Kiel, winter 1864-65 Bergen – Hammerfest, 1866-70 Kristiania – København.)
In the winter 1860-61 he worked at Horten post office as well and a couple of winters also in the General Post Directorate. From thereon he became manager of Kristiania railway mail service (Kristiania – Charlottenberg) and January 13 1883 he was appointed postmaster at Kongsberg. He was a member of the executive board for poor relief in Kongsberg and the same for Kongsberg savings bank."


:) Thank you so much for your help and translation. I really appreciate it! I tried several translation sites on the computer and they would not recognize certain words. -Dusty
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eibache
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Posted - 17/02/2011 :  09:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amund Olsen and his swedish wife in Kongsberg 1900.

Einar
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 17/02/2011 :  11:51:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Post master in Kongsberg Amund Olsen lived in Myntgata
The post office from 1883-1905 when it was modernized was in the grey two story building from about 1830 to the left in picture nr 3.

Today it´s an eye care business in the first floor facing the street while the remaining of the first floor is a commercial printer.
On the second floor there are apartments.

The yellow building on the other side build 1816, hospital from 1816-1893, public school until late 1900s and is today a languge and Adult Education Center for immigrants.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 17/02/2011 12:20:14
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 19/02/2011 :  03:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kåarto

Post master in Kongsberg Amund Olsen lived in Myntgata
The post office from 1883-1905 when it was modernized was in the grey two story building from about 1830 to the left in picture nr 3.

Today it´s an eye care business in the first floor facing the street while the remaining of the first floor is a commercial printer.
On the second floor there are apartments.

The yellow building on the other side build 1816, hospital from 1816-1893, public school until late 1900s and is today a languge and Adult Education Center for immigrants.

Kåre

Thank you for this information and photos. Someday, I really hope to make the journey to Norway so that I am able to see the places and farms where my ancestors lived! I appreciate your help. -Dusty
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 19/02/2011 :  03:47:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by eibache

Amund Olsen and his swedish wife in Kongsberg 1900.


Thank you for this additional information. It is all helpful in getting the fuller story of the family and the different places they moved to. -Dusty
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 28/02/2011 :  03:55:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jwiborg



I have been looking for information on Amund's brother John Olsen, born 13 of October, 1846 in Gausdal to Ole Johansen and Anne Olsdatter. In the 1875 Sor-Trondelag Co. Trondheim census records, I found a John Olsen, married to Mathilde Marie, who appears to be a Postmaster by steamer, like Amund was. Is it possible that the book you found this information on Amund in would also include a paragraph on John Olsen? I'm thinking since they are both postmasters by steamer, both from Gausdal, they might be brothers. And, can you tell me what book this might be from? Thank you, Dusty
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 28/02/2011 :  08:33:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John Olsen and Mathilde Marie Jensen were married Nov 6 1870, see #30.
Johns father Ole Johansen, Skaarslien.
Mathilde Maries father Carl Frederik Jensen.

Mathilde Marie Jensen was born Dec 8 1848, see #2.

John Olsen is in Steinkjer in 1900. His wife is now Anne Petrea born in Trondhjem.
Anne Petrea = Anna Petrea Jensdatter, a younger sister of John Olsens first wife, see 1965 census.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 28/02/2011 17:44:29
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 18/03/2011 :  02:36:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much for this additional information! -Dusty
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Dusty Nelms
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Posted - 18/03/2011 :  19:57:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finally found Amund Olsen's marriage record in Oppland, Nykirke in Gausdal parish register copy 1861 (p. 180 - #10). I can make out Amund Olsen Skaarslien, age 25, son of Ole Skaarslien, married Heline Sophie (of Sweden), age 26. But I am unable to read the date of marriage or additional info. on Heline. If anyone is able to make out the date and Heline's last name or place in Sweden, I would appreciate your help. Thank you - Dusty
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eibache
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Posted - 18/03/2011 :  20:07:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is Dec 27 and "Jomfru Heline Sophie Nystrøm fra Ystad i Sverige 26 Aar."

The Swedish digital archive was free of charge this weekend, found the baptism of Helene Sophie March 11 1836, parents Ifvar Nilsson Nystrøm and Elna Morgensdotter.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 19/03/2011 11:35:38
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