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Christine Robertson
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Australia
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 Posted - 16/03/2011 : 04:52:40
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I have never joined a forum before, so hope you will treat me kindly.
I am the great granddaughter of Harald Trondsen who, according to his marriage certificate (Sydney, Ausralia), was born in Norway and married Agnes Andersen, also born in Norway, in Sydney in 1880. Harald's father, as shown on the marriage certificate, was Halvor or Halbor Trondsen or Tronsen. He was Norwegian and the certificate states he was a policeman and was married to Maria Dunn.
There is a story in our family that Harald was a mariner who jumped ship in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. Also, that some of our forebears travelled from Norway to the USA and settled in Utah. Then some migrated to Australia, via New Zealand. Rose Trondsen. Harald's sister, left the ship in New Zealand and married a man whose surname was Andersen. He was a ships chandler.
Our name was changed from Trondsen to Thompson in Australia, presumably because the names sounded similar and my ancestors did not know how to read or write to correct the spelling. There are no Trondsens left in Australia.
Hoping someone can help me to try and track down any information. Thanking you in advance. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 06:40:32
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If you had date and year of birth for Harald and Agnes it would be a big help.
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Christine Robertson
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Australia
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 07:11:09
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Originally posted by eibache
If you had date and year of birth for Harald and Agnes it would be a big help.
My apologies. According to the marriage certificate they were both aged 24 at time of marriage. year of birth for both would be either 1856 or 1855. |
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Christine Robertson
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Australia
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 07:20:12
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| Again, I have found some more records - wife Agnes was born Agnes Andersen. Her parents names were - Angus Andersen and Annie Maria Georfison. Hope this helps. |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 14:10:42
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Hi,
Harald Throndsen was bap. Harald Halvorsen in Norway acc. traditional Norwegian naming practice and changed lastname to Throndsen.
I have an interesting candidate for you in Oslo 1865.
Widower Halvor Throndsen, policeman born in Ullensaker municipality with two son´s, Harald age 10 (born June 20. 1856) and Fredrik Vilhelm age 8 both born in Oslo, see id. nr 29660 here
There is a but;
Haralds mother was Laurine Marie Wilhelmsdatter, she was a widow when she married Halvor Throndsen in Oslo Domkirke March 8. 1857, see #26
No daughter Rose Halvorsen (Throndsen) found.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 17/03/2011 09:38:28 |
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Christine Robertson
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Australia
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 04:04:21
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| Thank you so much Kaarto. I didn't expect such a quick response to my query. This is absolutely wonderful. Chris |
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 06:48:43
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It looks like Laurine Marie Wilhelmsdatter was the one born in Stavern Aug 16 1823, see #31 - she was baptized Larine Nicoline and her parents were Tømmermand Wilhelm Anton Wilken and Dorthe Kirstine Frederichsdatter.
It may be of interest to see the marriage record #26 where Laurine Marie is said to be 33 1/2 years, born in Fredriksvern (= Stavern) and the father being Wilhelm Anton Wilken Tømmermand.
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 07:21:31
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Vilhelm Anton married Dorthe Christine Frideriksdatter June 2 1814, see last line on right page and continue to the next page.
Dorthe Kirstine and her parents in 1801. |
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Christine Robertson
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Australia
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 08:31:33
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| Thank you Einar. This is all looking very interesting. Laurine Marie Wilhelmsdatter may have been the step-mother of Harald as she married Halvor in the year after Harald was born, so she may be an addition to the family. I have found a number of names that changed suddenly once that person arrived in Australia. I assume because the names were so alien to people back in the 1800 and 1700s. I'm still trying to work out how to use the Digitalarkivet website. I'm getting closer with it. |
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 08:56:14
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Laurine was Haralds mother, he was born out of wedlock (before they were married), see #262.
Laurine was a widow after painter Carl Lund in Pipervigens Strandgade.
See photo.
Halvor was not yet a policeman. |
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Christine Robertson
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Australia
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 11:34:44
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| Thank you Einar for that information about Laurine. |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 11:58:25
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Harald changed lastname to Throndsen when he was confirmated in Trefoldighetskirken by Pastor Hansen Oct. 2. 1870, see #47
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 13:37:25
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Also interesting information from the confirmation record is Laurines name: Enke Laurine Wilhelmsdatter Lund (Marie Dunn = Marie Lund).
They were living in Ruseløkveien 28. View of Ruseløkkveien |
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Edited by - eibache on 17/03/2011 14:11:00 |
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Christine Robertson
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Australia
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 00:52:40
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| Fantastic Einar. Thank you so much. Looks like we have the correct family. |
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Christine Robertson
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 01:09:11
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| Thank you KÃ¥re for this wonderful information. |
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