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Dusty Nelms
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 Posted - 18/03/2011 : 02:46:23
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I am trying to find out what happened to Ole Olsen, if he married and had any children and if he remained in Norway.
Ole, son of Ole Johanssen (or Johannessen) and Anne Olsdatter, was born 18 March 1834 and bapt. 6 Apr. 1834. He was born at Skaarslien, Gausdal, Norway. 4 of his siblings came to the U.S. Three of his siblings stayed in Norway and I'm not sure what happened to his oldest sister Randi (b. 1826). Any help on his whereabouts or possible children would be appreciated. :) Thank you, Dusty |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 16:20:37
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You've chosen yourself quite a large task, a task for which it is not likely there will be any easy answer.
Did you find him in Gausdal church confirmation records so that you have some assurance that he at least survived to the age of about 14-17?
Did you find him still in Gausdal for the 1865 Norwegian census? The 1875 Norwegian census?
If he stayed in Norway he wouldn't necessarily still be in Gausdal... was he shown in the church records for leaving the parish (Utfyltte/Udflyttede)? That possible record should show WHERE he was intending to move to.
If he emigrated to the US there are many many "American" Ole Olsens (and the other spelling variations possible) you'd have to search through there too over the expanse of a very large country. Narrowing by age or perhaps concentrating your search in the same area(s) near the other four siblings could help you in that search.
Even if he did stay in Gausdal you'd have no idea WHEN he married or WHEN he died so you have many many years of marriage and death records that would have to be checked. A Norwegian marriage record would list his father's name so you could be fairly sure you had the same Ole Olsen but a death record for an adult would not.
Alternatively you could make efforts to check the bygdeboks for the Gausdal area for the farm(s) where his family had their history, “Gausdal Bygdehistorie”, 6 volumes by Ole Fredrik Bergersen. Many times a bygdebok will give information about what happened to all members of a particular family. |
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Dusty Nelms
Medium member
USA
87 Posts |
Posted - 18/03/2011 : 17:55:27
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| I did find Ole's confirmation record and family was still in Gausdal so I do know that he survived his childhood. He father, Ole Johanssen, remained at the family farm of Skaarslien until his death in 1878. I have not yet found the death record of his mother Anne as she may have left the farm after Ole J's death (she was still alive in 1875). I will see if I can find his name in church records for leaving the parish. You mention the bygdeboks for the Gausdal area farms. Are these accessible online or can you tell me where one might be able to search this book.? Thank you, Dusty |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 18/03/2011 : 19:18:30
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I have no personal knowledge if the Gausdal bygdebøker includes worthwhile genealogical information within it's published history because I've never used it. You might check with online "lookup" volunteers who might know that.
I do not know if that series of bygdebøker or any extracts from it are available online. You might try a broad Internet search for the title of the book I gave earlier.
There is a good collection of material about using Norwegian bygdebøker online for your study.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html
The Gausdal Historielag is a local historical society in Gausdal... they appear to have a webpage, entirely in Norwegian.
There is also the Gudbrandsdalslaget, an American organization of descendants from Gudbrandsdal, Norway (which includes Gausdal). http://www.gudbrandlag.org/
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 00:00:35
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Hi,
worth a try.
Perhaps you can get some help here
Gausdal Bygdebok volume 4 covers the period from 1830-1914, but the content is unknown to me.
Contact persons for Gausdal History Assosiation.
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Dusty Nelms
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 09/04/2011 : 17:21:51
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| There was never a mention in the family of this Ole Olsen coming to America...it was not known what became of him. In searching for him, I found an Ole Olsen, age 39, who married Kari Nilsdatter, age 25, at Ostre Gausdal March 13, 1873. The age is right for it to be "my" Ole. It does show Ole Johansen (who was his father) after his name. I also found a daughter - Agnete, born to them Oct. 12, 1873 at Ostre Gausdal. It does not give a list of witnesses in the baptism record. When I looked for their names in 1875 Gausdal census records, I did not find them. Does someone have an opinion on how I can possible better verify that this may be the Ole Olsen in my family? Thank you, Dusty |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2011 : 18:54:51
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Did you make good efforts to contact those with the Gausdal bygdeboks?
The 1875 census for Gausdal does show a divorced Kari Nilsdatter with a daughter named Agnete Olsdatter listed as born in 1873.... |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/04/2011 : 21:23:24
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I also found a daughter - Agnete, born to them Oct. 12, 1873 at Ostre Gausdal. It does not give a list of witnesses in the baptism record.
- there are witnesses, see #138 - witnesses on right page: Nils Olsen Østreng and wife, Ole Nilsen and Karen Nilsdatter, Østreng, Oliana Olsdatter Frøsen.
Kari Nilsdatter and her two children Agnette and Niels living at her parents in 1875.
Notice also #1409 Ole Olsen who was the farmers son-in-law - he was visiting but was a salesman living with his father.
I do not see any sign that he and Kari Nielsdatter were divorced.
Their latest child, Niels, was born Dec 31 1875, see #14.
Ole Olsen is also recorded at Frøsen with his parents and sibling in 1875.
This Ole Olsen is obviously not the one you seek info on!.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2011 : 22:37:31
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Your Ole Olsen Skaar, 16 years old, left Gausdal and went to Christiania in 1851, see #4. It looks like he travelled together with Nils Olsen, Finsrud who was 20 years older than he.
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Lislcat
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USA
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Posted - 12/04/2011 : 00:54:18
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Hi,
My understanding is that the Gausdal bygdebok is not like other bygdeboken. It has more of a general history of the area. It's not necessarily, farm history. You can't follow a family through generations, like you can with the Hjartdal bygdebok or others that I've used in Telemark and Aust-Agder.
Kåre Mikkelsen's Gausdal genealogy site is info he has taken from parish records. He does have an error concerning my family, but only because it was listed in the parish record wrong. It's a good source. |
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janrm
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Norway
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Posted - 23/04/2011 : 06:33:50
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Hi!
A few months ago I contributed to solving an almost equal question - "a family emigrating, one sibling left in Norway, what happened to him"
That time the solution was in the probate record for the parents, stating living heirs.
On the bottom left page here I have found a probate record for a Ole Johannesen in Sør-Gudbrandsdal around 1878:
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/34319/27/
(See also following pages)
I am however in doubt if it is "our man" as he does not seem to have any living children or living wife?
If this is wrong the next move may be to look for Ole's mother Anne and her probate record...
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Dusty Nelms
Medium member
USA
87 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2011 : 01:14:19
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| "My" Ole Johannessen died March 15, 1878 at Skaarslien, Gausdal and I believe his wife was still alive. She was still listed alive in 1875 census record. However, I have not been able to find her death record yet. I don't believe this record is my Ole as most of his children were still alive. 4 of them had come to America, but were still alive at that time. I believe 5 of them stayed in Norway (but not positive) including son Ole. I have no clue what became of his oldest daughter - Randi, born in 1826. I know she was confirmed, but that is the last record I have of her. Is there some type of index for this record you have shown so a person could look for a name (if you don't have a date of death)? -Dusty |
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janrm
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Ole Olsen, born 1834 Gausdal, Norway
