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Lislcat
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 Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:34:00
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I need some help finding the parish record that matches this record from the LDS site. My friend and I, have been trying to connect our families that lived on the same farm in Gausdal, Oppland, Norway. Today, I believe I found the connection. Thanks in advance for your help! :-) Wanda
SVEND MORTENSEN Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
26 JAN 1806 Ostre Gausdal, Oppland, Norway
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: MORTEN SVENDSEN Family
Mother: MARIT JENSDT.
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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C420151 1693 - 1809 0125547 Film NONE
Sheet: 00
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 22:25:47
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The FamilySearch.org website actually lists the Source Film Number as 125547. The online LDS library catalog shows that to have been one of the films of the church records for Gaudal, Oppland, Norway (ministerialbok #3). That book is included in the scanned church records available online at the Digitalarkivet website.
Have you looked for it in that book? |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 22:27:34
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| Yes, I have and haven't been able to locate his birth record on Digitalarkivet. It should be there. Maybe I'm missing it in the Chronological List? |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 22:34:48
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| I just found it! I must of missed a page. Thanks for your help! |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/09/2011 : 07:25:09
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Morten Svendsen and Marit Jensdatter were married June 3 1800, see 6th record from bottom of right page. They were both on Sejelstad and the local sherrif was one of the witnesses.
In the 1801 census Marit was living at Fierdrum while Morten was living at Sejelstad - both recorded as married.
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Lislcat
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690 Posts |
Posted - 27/09/2011 : 21:15:31
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Thank you, very much! Interesting! Maybe one was working at one of the farms, when the census was taken?
My friend and I are very excited to have found the connection. We always felt like we were related and now we know that we are. Svend's son, Morten and his family and my great great great uncle Ole Nilsen Lie (Gjedberget) and his family, traveled to the U.S. together, so we knew that they were at least good friends. They didn't settle in the same area in Wisconsin, though. My great great uncle Peder Jensen Gjedberget, also traveled with some of her family to the U.S., but they lost him when they docked. I've never been able to find out what happened to him and she talks about the stories that she heard, about them losing a family member when they arrived in the U.S. Shanghaied, maybe? I don't know. Thanks for your help, Einar! |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 27/09/2011 : 21:18:54
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| Could it be that Marit was living somewhere else, because he was in the military. Dragun? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/09/2011 : 22:34:51
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I believe Morten was just a regular servant for the farmowner Peder Johansen, but his age made him available for service as a dragun as was also the case for others living on Sejelstad (Segalstad nowadays - Segalstad Bru known for Norwegians fighting the German occupational forces beginning of WW II).
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Lislcat
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Posted - 27/09/2011 : 22:56:27
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| I had noticed that he was listed as Dragun on their marriage record, that is why I was wondering if maybe she wanted to stay with someone, while he was gone. My family did that here, during WWII. Thanks for your help! Wanda |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/09/2011 : 23:41:56
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Hi Wanda,
are these people Johannes Berges´s ancestors?
Reg. Segalstad Bru.
My father was leader of a machine gun squad (Colt m-29) there in April -40.
A friend of him from Sandsvĉr at Kongsberg, Carl Olaus Mĝrk, was killed there April 21. 1940.
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Lislcat
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Posted - 27/09/2011 : 23:59:33
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Yes, they lived on Lie farm together and Svend's granddaughter, was Johannes Berge's sister-in-law. We knew that there had to be a marriage, since they lived so close together and we finally figured it out.
Very happy to have made the connection. The cousin/friend of mine is 86 or 87 and it's made her very happy.
Thanks so much! Wanda |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/09/2011 : 00:17:37
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It´s a small world Wanda.
Farmers were comitted to hire soldiers in those days. There were training places but no camps.
He was a Dragon soldier in Oplandske Dragonregiment.
Kċre
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Lislcat
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Posted - 28/09/2011 : 00:21:08
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Thanks Kċre, I will pass that on to her. I don't believe she knows that.
Does anyone know how I would go about getting a photo of Lie farm for her? It was a spiritual gathering place and at one time, I believe they even held services there. That is the one thing that she really wants. If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate your help. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 28/09/2011 : 10:05:53
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Hei Wanda.
Not sure if there are several Lie farms in Gausdal, need some investigation.
This photo shows exevations of a 1000 year old farm below the Lie farm in Gausdal.
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Lislcat
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Posted - 28/09/2011 : 14:46:08
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| Lie is a large farm and Berget under Lie, is where my family lived. It use to be called Gjedberget under Lie. Thanks for that photo. That is Lie in the background? |
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 28/09/2011 : 16:05:18
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Difficult to be sure reg. Lie.
Both Morten Svendsen Dragon in 1800 and your Johannes Berge were from Gjedberget.
Gjedberget was a sub farm under Lie.
Many if´s Wanda;
If its the right Lie farm in the photo and Gjedberget was included to Lie.........
Lie in 1801, Gedberget in 1865 census, no Gjedberge farm in the 1900 census.
Was Gjedberget alredy abandoned or included in Lie before 1900?
Best man for Morten Svendsen, Dragon on Sejelstad in 1801, Lensmann Sejelstad was Elling Johansen Sejelstad, Lensmann and farmer on Roquam in 1801.
Farmers wife on Sejelstad in 1801 Marit Jacobsdatter drowned in the well 1805.
Morten Svendsen´s wife Marit Jensdatter , "Inderst" on a sub farm under Fjerdrum.
"Inderst" means she was related to cottager and Dragon Ole Olsen or his wife Kari.
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