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IngBegg
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Posted - 11/02/2012 :  20:27:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was told that Mina Larsdatter b 1850 died during the crossing to America, but also that she married there. I found her leaving Norway on 29th April 1870, but I cannot find the passenger list for the boat. But, were marriages and deaths reported anywhere? Or would any of this show if I found the passenger list?

AntonH
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Posted - 11/02/2012 :  20:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you know what city she left from. Was she travelling alone, any friends with her? If you can give us more information perhaps we can find her passenger list.


Edited by - AntonH on 12/02/2012 04:42:40
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Lislcat
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  04:17:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Deaths were usually reported at the end of a ship list, so you find the correct one and you may find out.

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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  10:03:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From where in Norway did she leave in 1870?

Børge Solem
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IngBegg
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  10:09:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like I need the passenger lists. This is what I have: Mina Larsen (22) from Ringsaker left from Oslo on 29th April 1870 heading for Cedar Falls, Iowa. Frakt 51 spd and she went on the Oder Line. On the same boat heading the same place was Even Nilsen Kjos (22) a Farmer's son. It has been claimed that Mina actually got married on board the ship, in which case it would probably be to Even. I thought I had worked out that the boat from Liverpool was Erie, but I don't get that to fit in.
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Borge
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  10:31:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, then I would start looking for the passenger list of the S/S Scandinavian of the Allan Line: see our list of corresponing ships with the Oder departure here: http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=290
The S/S Scandinavian (1) of the Allan Line departure from Liverpool May 5 and arrival at Quebec May 16 is a confirmed connection from newspaper notices. The Canadin records are available here: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-100.01-e.php

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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  21:05:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not an easy one. Here is the emigration record for Even.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=23&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=15997&merk=15997#ovre

The five member family directly above Even can be found arriving into New York. But I have looked at all the pages of the manifest and was not able to locate Even.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Christian Lorentzon
Arrival Date: 16 May 1870
Birth Year: abt 1812
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Idaho


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Hopkins
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  21:22:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Considering the location of Cedar Falls, Iowa and the routes common to get to that location about 1870 I would think a Quebec arrival would make more sense.
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IngBegg
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  22:07:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks all. I found the Canadian site very useful, and have learned a lot, even if I did not find Mina or Even. "The Scandinavian" to Quebec does not come up on the Canadian site and so I find no passenger list. Neither do I find Even in America, so I reckon that this will remain a mystery for the time being.
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 12/02/2012 :  23:31:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lot of the passengers who left Oslo on April 29th, can be found on the Scandinavian, arriving Quebec on May 16th. The passenger list can be viewed here.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 12/02/2012 23:32:58
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 13/02/2012 :  00:03:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ancestry.com has the passenger list for the Scandivavian arriving May 16, 1870. I looked over the pages of the passenger list, however I did not find either a Even Nielsen or Mina Larsen on any of the pages. However one thing did turn up. A infant died on May 6 and was listed on page 5. It would appear that this is that infant. So if you can find the correct passenger list it could give you some idea of what happened to Mina at least on the trip to America.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Francis Kellys
Gender: Male
Age: Infant
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Date of Arrival: 16 May 1870
Vessel: Scandinavian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Scandinavian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England



Edited by - AntonH on 13/02/2012 00:09:21
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 13/02/2012 :  00:58:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is also a Bernt Nielsen Kjos age 30 leaving on 29 Apr 1870 together with his wife. Mayhaps he's a brother to Even?

Why have you focused on Even Nielsen Kjos as the only possible candidate because of the Cedar Falls destination?

Here is single 21 year old Ole Olson Saugstad from Ringsaker going to Sioux City [Iowa} on Oder 29 Apr 1870:

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=15977#nedre

And Ole Olson Saugstad is in this recently updated (2011) database at www.rootsweb.com, although it doesn't show a wife for him, there are several contact addresses to consult:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=reque&id=I10834


Edited by - jkmarler on 13/02/2012 01:08:47
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IngBegg
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Posted - 13/02/2012 :  09:34:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks again, and I got a reminder that assuming is not always useful - because, the story has it that she married a Saugstad brother. Her sister Maria married Ole Evensen Saugstad, so of course it could have been another Saugstad. And yes, I picked on Even because he was going to Cedar Falls and was from Ringsaker.
I have found Maria and Ole leaving Norway on 29th July and later in America and I have in my posession a family tree by an unknown person. The tree has some mistakes and gives no clues as to Mina. I could not find anybody suitable on Scandinavian either, now that you helped me to find the boat. I also kept an eye for Sigstad as Mina came from that farm. I will now try out the links for Ole Olsen.
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