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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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 Posted - 21/06/2012 : 20:36:47
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Some titles by the author include:
For Our Vines Have Tender Grapes
The Bells of St. Mary's
The Evil That Men Do
Keeping in Step
Mark It With A Stone
For Our Vines Have Tender Grapes was his first novel and according to Jerry Mangione in the 1996 book The Dream and The Deal: The Federal Writer's Project 1935-1943 pg 127 footnote that George Victor Martin wrote at least part of the book when he was on staff with the Illinois Writer's Project. So the book was probably at least in part facilitated by the Federal government as a WPA era project. |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/06/2012 : 23:05:54
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A Family Tree has Selma's maiden name as Jacobsen and birth in Amherst, Wisconsin. If so this could be the family in 1920.
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Selma Jacobson
Age: 16
Birth Year: abt 1904
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1920: Amherst, Portage, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Martinius Jacobson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's name: Sophia Jacobson
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Martinius Jacobson 56
Sophia Jacobson50
Hilda Jacobson10
Ruth Jacobson 7
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Selma Jacobson 16 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/06/2012 : 23:18:57
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If this is his death certificate, it gives names for his parents.
Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths Index, 1916-1947
Name: Martinus Jacobson
Birth Date: abt 1863
Death Date: 29 Dec 1932
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Death Age: 69
Gender: Male
Father Name: Jacob Howen
Mother Name: Andrian Olsen
Spouse Name: Sophia
FHL Film Number: 1893420 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/06/2012 : 23:24:47
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Might be a young Martinius and his family in the 1865 Census.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 01:22:59
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Originally posted by lyndal40
A Family Tree has Selma's maiden name as Jacobsen and birth in Amherst, Wisconsin. If so this could be the family in 1920.
Could you tell a bit about this family tree? Does it include George Victor Martin as well? |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 01:52:18
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My Dad had said that it was based on a family that his family knew, so I know where they lived. If any of you have Ancestry, you will find them on this plat, in section 3 of Amherst Township, Portage County, WI. My Dad had said, that he thought they had moved away, because of the movie. There were some tough parts to watch in that movie. Quite dramatic for a movie from the 1940's. The land looks nothing like the Amherst area, but it is a nice story.
http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1205&iid=USAOTH2007MAP_145206-00003 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 02:33:29
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Yes, it includes George listed as the husband of Selma. The ancestry of Selma is very sparse. Has only her mother listed as Sophie.
george victor martin
Birth 12- 1900 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Death 11-1969 in New York City (All Boroughs), New York, USA |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 02:43:41
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Martinius and Sophia followed Selma and husband to Chicago.
1930 United States Federal Census about Martinus Jacobson
Name: Martinus Jacobson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
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Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1892
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia Jacobson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Martinus Jacobson 67
Sophia Jacobson 60
Nora Jacobson 31
Laura Jacobson 28
Ruth Jacobson 18
Herman Kinast 45
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 02:45:43
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An interesting discussion of both the book and the movie. Confirms that Selma's father was named Martinius Jacobson.
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Lislcat
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 02:47:10
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| My Dad was wrong, because they would of moved before the movie came out. They just moved to be with the family. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 02:55:34
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Probably the birth record of Martinius.
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 03:01:55
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Probably the family of George Victor Martin.
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Victor M Martin
Age in 1910: 36
Birth Year: 1874
Birthplace: France
Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 35, Cook, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1880
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Elfriede G Martin
Father's Birthplace: France
Mother's Birthplace: France
Neighbors:
Household Members:
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Victor M Martin 36
Elfriede G Martin 34
Alice M Martin 10
George V Martin 9 |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/06/2012 : 17:32:42
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Sophie Jacobson's father is named in several of the records.
In the death record:
N Neilson
In the marriage record
Nils Kilgeson
And Sophie's last name given in the marriage record is Wilson.
Because the marriage record was made first, I assume that it is more likely to be accurate--that is less faulty-- since it would have had fewer years to be transformed in memory.
Since the father of anyone born in 1870 must be alive in 1865, I searched the 1865 census & found there were none whose name was Kilgeson. I did find that there were 30 males whose last name contains "lge," whose first name starts with n (and then picking all of those that are Nils like) all over the whole nation.
This search also won't find any name that contained lga or lgo as in Helgarson or Halgorson. So that would be approximately 30 parishes to search for a birth record for Sophie b. Jan 1870. |
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Norwegian connex "Our Vines Have Tender Grapes"
