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marypeterson
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 Posted - 22/09/2012 : 04:39:27
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Does anyone know about old Norwegian medallions? Someone I know has a round gold medallion with 3 small round ones attached to the bottom. It supposedly is from 1662 and was to be handed down from oldest son to oldest son. It came from the Sund, Hordaland area. I was wondering if there was come sort of tradition or religious meaning attached to it.
Thank you,
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 22/09/2012 : 07:53:48
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It could be a "Sølje" used with Bunader, see here and for Sotra Hordaland.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/09/2012 : 11:10:26
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Typically on older silver pieces there are hallmarks.
I have an old sølje and it has 5 hallmarks on the back. One mark gives the year (18) 40, the month 6/M meaning June, the maker's initials AB, the assayer's mark H and the town mark for Bergen--7 bumps in an oblong representing the 7 hills of Bergen. Although it could be gold, often silver jewelry had a thin sheet of gold pounded into the surface which was intended to make the piece appear to be gold as well as to keep it from tarnishing.
Is there any sort of fastening mechanism on the medallion? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 22/09/2012 11:20:59 |
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marypeterson
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Posted - 22/09/2012 : 18:44:03
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| It is attached to a thick silver chain. |
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marypeterson
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Posted - 22/09/2012 : 18:48:11
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| I found that The old Bergenhus amt was created in 1662 and was divided in 1763. Could it be that the date 1662 was put on the medallion because of this? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/09/2012 : 21:29:11
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My opinion.
A medallion would have had engravings and incriptions of what it represented.
It was probably a special piece of jewlery, a hairloom, since it was handed over from oldest son to oldets son.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 22/09/2012 : 22:30:29
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quote:
Originally posted by marypeterson
Does anyone know about old Norwegian medallions? Someone I know has a round gold medallion with 3 small round ones attached to the bottom.
Do you have a picture of it? Something like this?
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marypeterson
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Posted - 24/09/2012 : 03:17:42
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| It looks like this only the large round is solid and worn. It has a shield of armour (soldier) with a sword and the letters FOH?FL-CODEL*MO: NO: ARG. Back side---looks like a family crest with a crown and a soldier and an animal head and tail 16 is on one side of the soldier and 62 on the other side, letters are CRESCU CON COR. The little attached rounds are 1. front an animal crest with flowers on the outside and the number 12, back side, person bust or head and some small writing. 2. front side figures and TOA , back side III SK??NG ANSKE 1730. 3. Front side same human head with 1671 or 1612, back side has a crest. Will try to take a picture of it next week. Thank you to all who responded. This is so interesting. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 24/09/2012 : 15:41:00
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An animal head,shield of armour, crown, flowers and sword it seems to be a family coat of arms.
You do not have the name of the family in the 1600s or 1700s.
Some of the letters are probably difficult to read ??.
III SK??NG ANSKE 1730.
Vesterlenske infantryregiment from 1718-1747,Rogaland county (A regiment south of 1. and 2. Bergenhus/Bergenhusske regiment), one of the infantrycompanies of enlisted soldier from Stavanger was named III Stavangerske.
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marypeterson
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Posted - 25/09/2012 : 22:48:09
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Thank you so very much for the response. Yes, some of the letters are difficult to read. This is what we have if it was passed son to son.
1723 Niels Laersen, Lie Nore farm, Fielde, Sund, Hordaland, Norway
1762 Christening record. Erich baptized 5 Sept 1762. Father Niels Laersen of N. Lies (Cerwn?) Lies is name of the farm. Witnesses: Roser? Jensen, Michel Hennehsen, Laers Monsen, Anne Pedersen Kari Laersdatter S. Lie. Source: Hordaland, Sund Ministerialbok A 4, 1748-1769, Fødte og døpte, page 150.
According to the 1801 census, the farm was Lie Nore, in Sokn of Fielde, Prestijeld of Sund and Amt. of Søndre Bergenhuus, in the fylke of Hordaland
1797 Johanes Erichesen's christening record. born 21 June 1797. Parents were Erich Nielsen and Siri Larsdatter. Witnesses were: Lasse Thomassen Glosmds, Ingeborg Nielsdatter, Gregorius Michelsen, Inge Nelsdatter Seltøen and Marthe Larsdatter Nysen. Source: Hordaland, Sund Ministerialbok A 6, 1787-1798, Fødte og døpte (born and baptized), pate 64, # 64.
1819 Birth and Christening record. Erick born 2 Sept 1819, christened 5 Sept 1819. Parents Johanes and Brite, Schooge, Sund. Witnesses: Malene og Ane, ?nud Andersen og Knud Andersen. Source:Hordaland, Sund Ministerialbok A 11, 1816-1825 Fødte og Døpte, page 15, # 47.
1854 Birth and Christening record. Mikkel was born 5 June 1854 and Christened 11 June 1854. Father was gaardmand (farmer) Erik Johannesen. Mother was Brithe Michelsdatter, both from Skouge farm. Witnesses were: Lars Eriksen Tvedt, Carston Hansen, Lars Thorsen, Ragnhild Solomonsdatter and Brithe Johannesdatter (these last 4 being from Skourge farm). Source: Hordaland, Sund Ministerialbok A 14, 1850-1866, page 36, # 88.
Through wife of above Mikkel, the line goes back to-----
1774 Marriage record. Johannes Gregoriusen Stegelvig married Marthe Larsdatter Høgsverd in Lindås 20 Feb 1774. Source: Hordaland, Lindås Ministerialbok A 4, 1764-1791, page 91, far left column.
1801 Norwegian Census
Amt-Søndre Bergenhuus, (later Hordaland) Prestegjeld-Lindås, Sokn-Sannes, Gard- Stegelviig
Johannes Gregoriusen was head of the farm, 58 years old and his second marriage. He was a Lors Mand (Probably a ship's pilot). He was living on Stegelvig farm with his wife, Marta Larsdatter 63. Son,
Lars Johannesen 27 was unmarried and an Af Landlægd (maybe land apprentice). Daughter, Brita Johannesdatter 21 was single. Daughter Dordi Johannesdatter 18 was single. The rest of the people living on the farm may be related or not
* Johannes Gregoriusen Huusbonde 58 2dre gang Iors mand
Marta Larsdtr Hans kone 63 1ste gang gift
Lars Johannesen Deres børen 27 Ugift Af landlægd
Brita Johannesdtr Deres børen 21 Ugift
Dordi Johannesdtr Deres børen 18 Ugift
Lasse Monsen Tieneste dreng 50 Ugift
Rangela Larsdtr I huuset 70 Ugift Opholdes af manden
* Aamund Olsen Mand 50 Begge 1ste gang gift Huusmand og betler
Marta Jakobsdtr Konen 30 Begge 1ste gang gift
Marta Aamundsdtr Deres børen 6
Ole Aamundsen Deres børen 2
Thank you again. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/09/2012 : 23:30:34
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Hi,
a "Iors mand" should be the same as "Jords mann", ie. farmer.
Certain farms in each district of Norway had to make available a soldier in those days, and a Landlægd was that, a "rural area soldier" on call up, armed/equipped and made available for the King in case of an emergency (war).
Rangela Larsdtr (70) seems like she could be an unmarried sister of Marta Larsdtr. She is supported by Johs. Gregoriusen.
Lasse Monsen is a servant for Johs. Gregoriusen.
The last four persons is a new household.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 26/09/2012 00:21:59 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/09/2012 : 10:56:01
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Reg the madallion with the dates 1662. 1612 or 1671 and 1730;
a difficult nut to crack.
Maybe the family is the owner of a treasure?
If this patrimony is a participation madal from the military the person was probably serving in Bergenhusske (Bergenhusiske) Regiment.
Army chief in Norway at that time was General Jørgen Bjelke.
A regiment from Vestern Norway on 2000 men participated in the reconquets of Trondheim 1658 under the leadership of colonel Reinhold v. Hoven.
Norwegian "Heraldikk" Coat of arms, by Arnstein Rønning, link
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/09/2012 : 11:36:39
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A curiosity from 1798.
Monthly cort in Bergen.
Oct. 10.
"Bonden" Farmer Johannes Gregoriussen on behalf of his son Lars Johannesen Stegelvik reported that firts of the month he has shot a bear after it had killed two cheeps.
As proof to recieve the bounty he brought lft front paws with claws.
Ca 1/5 from bottom.
1798:170b, link
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Very old Norwegian medallion.
