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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  02:48:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't help with the line including Gjerdrum 1844 but the parts above it are the date Karen's mum was allowed--introduced or reintroduced in church. Back in the bad old days women who had given birth were considered unclean until "churched".
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KLeach
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  03:21:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#17. This could be another one of Thor and Kari's children, although the name is unclear and could use help with the translation. Can see the 31st of May, Thor Larsen Smedstadhaug, Guilbrand L Smedstad, and Ingebor Larsdatter.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-123

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Originally posted by KLeach

#28 on RH page. I believe this is a baptismal entry for Thor Larsen and Kari Larsdatter's daughter Karen in 1786. I could use some assistance with deciphering it.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-129

Appears to read 23 July...Thor Larsen Smedstadhaug...Kari Larsdatter. Then _______ Lars Smedstad, Jacob Larsen Smedstad, Anne Larsdatter Smedstad, Anders _______ Smedstad, ________ Jacobsdatter Smedstad...

Having difficulty reading anything else. There is an entry on the right that shows something about 1844.


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Originally posted by KLeach

Thor Larsen, b.1745 in Smedstad is Jens' father. I have found 2 entries for 1745 in the Gjerdrum Parish Register, both are hard to read. (Kari Larsdatter is thought to be Thor's wife.)

#8 on this page:


http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-20

and #27 on this one:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-21

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Originally posted by eibache

Jens Thorsen, Smestad and Berthe Thorsdatter, Svensrud (married Dec 3 1801) #4 had the children:
Thorer (bapt Jan 9 1803) #4,
Dorthe (bapt March 25 1804) #11,
Karen (bapt Aug 4 1805) #24,
Lars (bapt May 10 1807) #22,
Dorthe (bapt Febr 11 1810) birth Febr 3 #5,
Hans (bapt April 11 1811) birth April 5 #4,
Jens (bapt April 16 1813) birth April 15 #19.







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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  03:30:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the child's name is Tore, gee Mum can't get no respect she is listed only as "hustru"
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KLeach
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  04:02:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is 31 May the birth or baptismal date? I'm pretty certain this is a child of Thor Larsen and Kari Larsdatter.

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I think the child's name is Tore, gee Mum can't get no respect she is listed only as "hustru"

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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  06:43:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since there appears to be only one date, I'd guess baptismal. If there were 2 dates the earlier date would be the birth, the later date the baptism.
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KLeach
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  07:02:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thor Larsen, b.1745 in Smedstad and Kari Larsdatter, b.1748(?) - I found an engagement record, but need confirmation of the details. See #3:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-175

The dates of Feb 4 and April 6 are given. Is Feb 4 the date of engagement?

What is the name of the place Kari hails from? I have not been able to locate birth information on her in the Gjerdrum parish records.

Edited by - KLeach on 14/03/2013 07:34:35
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  07:35:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thor Larsen, Smedstad and Kari Larsdatter, Hønsi were (troloved) engaged Febr 4 and (copulered) married April 6 1774.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 14/03/2013 07:35:45
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eibache
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  08:16:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Appears to read 23 July...Thor Larsen Smedstadhaug...Kari Larsdatter. Then _______ Lars Smedstad, Jacob Larsen Smedstad, Anne Larsdatter Smedstad, Anders _______ Smedstad, ________ Jacobsdatter Smedstad...
I read
23 July Dom 6 p Trinitat døbt Thor Larsens Smedstad og h Kari Ldat P (Pige = female) B (Barn = child) Karen
Faddere Lars Smedstad, Jacob Larsen Smedstad, Anne Larsdatter Smedstad, Kirstine Jacobsdatter Smedstad.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 14/03/2013 08:36:16
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KLeach
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  08:27:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could this be Thor's birth/baptismal information? #5 on page 2.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-28

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Originally posted by eibache

Thor Larsen, Smedstad and Kari Larsdatter, Hønsi were (troloved) engaged Febr 4 and (copulered) married April 6 1774.


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eibache
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  08:29:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Can see the 31st of May, Thor Larsen Smedstadhaug, Guilbrand L Smedstad, and Ingebor Larsdatter.
- I read (1784)
31 Maj døbt (baptized) Thor Larsens Smadstads og Husts D (Dreng = male) B (Barn = child) Tore
Faddere Gulbrand L Smedstad, Engel L Hønsi, Ingel Kogstad, Tormor L Kogstad, Ingebor Hansdtr Olstad.
Introd Dom 3d p Trinit (= June 27).

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 14/03/2013 08:45:48
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eibache
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  08:56:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Could this be Thor's birth/baptismal information? #5 on page 2.
- yes, I read (1748)
28 Januarj døbt Lars Tormosens Smedstad og Marthe Jensdatters Thorsdatters Drengebarn Thor
Faddere Villum og Thor Olstad, Jakob Svendsrud, Gunill og Valter, Anne Smedstad.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 15/03/2013 09:00:48
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/03/2013 :  10:22:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kari Larsdatter Hønsi bap. March 25. (Annunciaton day) 1747.
25. marty (march) Lars Hønsis pigebarn (girl) Kari.
Introdused (the mother) to the congregation Dom. Cantate, 2, Sunday after Easter (April 30).
R. h. #15

Kåre
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KLeach
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Posted - 15/03/2013 :  08:45:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#9, Page 1, Kristy(?)

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-35

Lars Tormosens Smedstad og Marthe Jensdatter

Is this another child of Lars and Marthe?

Entry hard to read.

#22, Page 2, Jens

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7628&idx_id=7628&uid=ny&idx_side=-37

Another child?

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Originally posted by eibache

quote:
Could this be Thor's birth/baptismal information? #5 on page 2.
- yes, I read (1748)
28 Januarj døbt Lars Tormosens Smedstad og Marthe Jensdatters Drengebarn Thor
Faddere Villum og Thor Olstad, Jakob Svendsrud, Gunill og Valter, Anne Smedstad.



Edited by - KLeach on 15/03/2013 08:56:15
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eibache
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Posted - 15/03/2013 :  09:10:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
#9, Page 1, Kristy(?)
- it is the daughter Kisti, baptized April 9 1751, parents Lars Tormosen Smedstad og Marthe Thorsdatter.
- the mothers name misread earlier, now corrected!
quote:
Another child?
- yes, the son Jens baptized Dom 13 p Tr = Aug 27 1752.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 15/03/2013 09:15:33
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eibache
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Posted - 15/03/2013 :  09:15:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lars Tormosen, Olstad and Marthe Thorsdatter, Smedstad were engaged Dec 28 1745 and married March 25 1746, #8.

Einar
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