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Carrie B
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Posted - 09/09/2013 :  22:41:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I read through the 35 pages of the handwritten 1900 census from the Asylum and did not find anyone who could be Ingeborg. So either she was missing from the record, or she did not live there in 1900.

Another thought is that perhaps she was a warden there? The asylum was also a poorhouse/almshouse, and she had been an attendant at an almshouse in Norway. However, at age 80 in Chicago, this is probably unlikely.

Edited by - Carrie B on 09/09/2013 23:09:39
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Carrie B
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USA
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Posted - 10/09/2013 :  03:54:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a stretch, but this is the only record even remotely close:

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7602/004113726_00936/10851531?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

"Inga Tirchley" transcribed in the Chicago 1900 census; the handwriting is difficult to read but looks almost like Tischley
Listed as born January 1826 (our Ingeborg was November 1826)
Listed as having 2 children, 1 still living (matches with Ellen and Petra; Petra died at age 11)
Listed as a pants maker

I'll try to find out more about Inga Tirchley. So far that's the only record of her with that spelling.

Edited by - Carrie B on 10/09/2013 04:10:34
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/09/2013 :  12:40:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To be nearly 75 and on her own would seem to indicate a strong person. Here is a link to Inga for those who don't have a sub to Ancestry. Unfortunately it doesn't say when she came to America. Address is 206 N Desplains St--you might look for other names in the household in the city directories. One of them might be found as landlord:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MS31-9TP


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Carrie B
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Posted - 19/09/2013 :  19:58:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello again,

I signed up for a trial of Newspapers.com which provides access to the Chicago Tribune, Inter-Ocean, and other major newspapers. Through this I found a longer article about Ellen's death, and one for Johanna. The article said Ellen worked at a laundromat and helped support her elderly mother (this would be Ingeborg). I'll post these in the next round of updates.

Still, nothing is turning up for Iver. The family legend says he "disappeared." I don't know if that is accurate.

In the newspapers I cannot find any missing person report for him using several name variants (Iver, Ivar, Iverson, Iversen). I also looked up "missing sailor" and found nothing. The 1901 city directory lists him as a clerk, where the 1900 census lists him as a sailor on Lake Michigan. He does not show up after 1901, so I think he disappeared in 1901-1902. I also searched his wife and son's name and his last known address and nothing turned up. Additionally, in Ellen's death report (1905) she is still called "Mrs." rather than "widow." This would lead me to believe that maybe she didn't think he disappeared-- maybe he left with some indication beforehand? Or perhaps I am reading too much into it. The main thing is if he really was a missing person you'd think the family or police would have put out an announcement. Also, when there is a ship accident, the names of the sailors are usually published and I cannot find any record of his name. Maybe it is there and I'm just not searching for the right terms.

I sent a letter to the Norway National Archives to see if they might have Iver's sailor records. I wonder if he would even be in these in his later years, since he became an American citizen and worked at the bookstore for 10 years.

Does anyone have any other suggestions for search terms I might use for the newspapers?
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 20/09/2013 :  01:33:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Online newspapers I'm not sure but there was a famous Norwegian language newspaper published in Chicago called Skandinaven The Illinois State Historical Library has it as a microfilm from 1866-1910. I don't know what you'd find if anything but Skandinaven was one of those papers that acted as a "bulletin board", people would write with information about themselves or friends, with the idea that the editor would publish & interested people would read & share with others. Sort of a broadcast call "to all inquiring friends."

My great grandfather in little teeny Lake Hester Township, McHenry county, North Dakota subscribed to 3 Norwegian language newspapers, Skandinaven, Decorah (Iowa) Posten and Normanden. It was important to stay informed.

In 1980s when our newly discovered cousin came from Norway to visit us, one of the events we shared with him was the Høstfest in Minot. Driving back we stopped at the Leeds (North Dakota ) flea market, then held in the former grade school building there. It just so happened that one of the dealers had about 1100 issues of Skandinaven. Our cousin picked up one of the papers and began to read, laughing because there was an article in that very issue about a man he'd purchased his beekeeping equipment from! World is small.

Why did your ancestor move to Michigan? An architect would certainly have been able to make a living in Chicago. Maybe there was a family pull there?

If nothing else cooks, you could buy the death certificate of the Iver Iverson who died in New York in 1906 just to eliminate him from consideration.
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Carrie B
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Posted - 20/09/2013 :  14:48:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi again,

Regarding the 1900-1901 Chicago city directory:
An Arthur L. Iverson lives at 190 West Huron, and an Iver F. Iverson also lives at 190 West Huron. Since Arthur L. was Iver's son, I am pretty confident about this directory match being the correct Iver. They are both listed as clerks, which could range from a bookstore to a steamship agent to something else. The national Norwegian directory book from 1901 has Iver and wife Ellen (listed as Maria, her middle name) as "cigarers," again, probably a convenience-store type of shop. The earlier directories from the 1880s list Iver F. as "agent" or "travel," and even though the address of employment changes, they were always steamship companies. Also, it seems like there is only one "Iver F." in Chicago and Brooklyn-- the others just go by Iver or Iver with a different middle initial. He seemed consistent with "Iver F."
So the 1900 Chicago census says sailor on Lake Michigan, unemployed for 5 months, whereas the 1900 and 1901 city directories with the address match to Arthur say clerk, and the national Norwegian directory says cigarer-- but to me this seems plausible as "clerk" in a convenience-store type of shop.

Arthur L didn't move to the Detroit area until 1910+, and my mom (Arthur L's grandson) is confident there was no previous connection to Michigan. Arthur L had moved out of Chicago to Rockford, following his employer (this is verified in some newspaper articles I haven't posted yet) and then moved to Detroit area a few years later when Detroit really was thriving. I know family legends can be incorrect, but growing up my mom was very close with her father (Arthur L's son), aunt (Arthur L's daughter), and grandmother (Arthur L's widow), all of whom said they never knew what happened to Iver. So I'm pretty sure that even if Iver had moved to Michigan, it was not known by the family.

Thanks as always for your thoughts!

Edited by - Carrie B on 20/09/2013 14:54:29
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Carrie B
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USA
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Posted - 20/09/2013 :  17:57:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the 1901 Chicago city directory when Iver F and Arthur L are both clerks living at the same address, Arthur L's work address is provided: "504, 28 Jackson Boul." I don't know if they worked at the same place, but if it's a possibility then I might be able to figure out Iver's last known employment.
28 Jackson seems to be a large building with many offices. The suite "504" shows up only a few times in the directory-- I checked the years 1900-1902. Other people employed there are bookkeepers and collectors. Is there a way to find out the name or what kind of business this was?
Jane-- I'll ask my mom about those questions. When she's talked about it before it sounds like there aren't any other details.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 21/09/2013 :  04:37:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lots of times when people disappear completely from American records, they might not be dead or runaway, but just have gone to Canada.

Ellen's mother was buried in Mt. Olive cemetery. It might be worth a try to see who paid for her plot and who else might be buried near her or in the same plot. The sexton of the cemetery would be the person who would keep those records.
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