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susanharkins
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 10/09/2013 : 04:13:35
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I am looking for information on my great grandmother .. Lena Marie Olsen born 1895-96 died in 1923 in Saskatchewan .. buried in Wilkie Saskatchewan .. she is the daughter or Iver Olsen from Norway .. mother unknown .. she married Robert Leslie McTavish born Feb 4/1874 father John McTavish .. they had three children Orpha Ella McTavish in 1914 at home, Ida McTavish 1915 at home, and Eva McTavish I believe in 1916 .. in 1916 the family lived in Red Deer, Alberta from what I can find she was 15 when she first shows up on the Canadian census in 1911 as a vistor in MacKenzie Saskatchewan .. my great grandmother died at an early age and my grandmother (Orpha Ella McTavish-McDonagh) was not allowed to speak of her as my great grandfather remarried .. if you have any information can you please message me at cocacolasharkie@hotmail.ca
thank you in advance
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 04:28:53
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Hi there, couple questions. Was Lena born in Norway? and What is the source of the information that her father was Iver Olsen? |
Edited by - JaneC on 10/09/2013 18:11:11 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 09:32:34
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Lena might have been Olina in Norway.
Some questions; Do you know if Lena was born in Norway? If so, did she with her parants em. before 1900? Did she em. alone to family in America after 1900? Did some of her uncles live in Minnsota. Did some from this family return to Norway?
If so I might have a candidate for you. Olina Marie b. April 30. 1896. Parents; Iver Olsen and Johanna Amundsdatter
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/09/2013 12:37:56 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/09/2013 : 11:00:07
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If Lena Marie Olsen = Olina Marie Iversdatter her parents Iver Olson and Johannah Aumndson (Johanna Amundsdatter) were married Aug 11 1888 in Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minn.
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Edited by - eibache on 10/09/2013 15:34:15 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 15:06:46
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1911 Census of Canada was taken 01 June.
1911 in Enumeration District 17: Townships 29, MacKenzie, Saskatchewan, Canada Lena Olson, 15, visitor, is noted as born OCTOBER 1896. Doesn't show country of origin. Elaine Hasper born March 1865 widow, Ray Hasper born July 1890, Mya Hasper March 1892, Harold Hasper July 1895, Kat Hasper born June 1907
1916 Census Big Valley, Alberta, Canada Lesley McTavish age 28 born O [Ontario] Presbyterian, Canadian, origin: Scotch, speak English: Yes speak French: No, occupation: Livery Stable [works with horses] Lena McTavish age 21, born in the US, Lutheran, arrived in Canada 1910, nationality: Canadian, origin: Scotch Orpha McTavish age 2 born Alb [Alberta], Lutheran Ida McTavish age 1 born Alb, Lutheran
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21953/jpg/31228_4363982-00910.jpg
The 1910 United States Census was taken 15 April 1910. A candidate: 1910 US Census Dunn, Otter Tail County, Minnesota, USA Iver Olsen 50 born about 1860 Norway, to USA 1883 Jenonie Olsen 49 born about 1861 Norway Ida Olsen 26 daughter born about 1884 Norway Clara Olsen 15 born about 1895 Minnesota Lena Olsen 13 born about 1897 Minnesota Euvald Olsen 11 born Minnesota Ella Olsen 6 born Minnesota Julius Olsen 4 born about 1906 Minnesota Alvin Olsen 2 born about 1908 Minnesota
The Iver above is called Iver Andrew Olson at Minnesota Historical Society death record. Died 29 APR 1911 in Otter Tail County, Minnesota. Death record can be ordered and there is likely additional information on it: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/Results.cfm
Iver Andrew Olson is buried at Zion Lutheran Cemetery in Pelican Rapids, Otter Tail, Minnesota, per Find a Grave memorial, which gives Iver's date of birth as 18 March 1860. |
Edited by - JaneC on 10/09/2013 21:20:54 |
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susanharkins
Starting member
Canada
18 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 19:29:09
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I really have no clue about when Iver and his wife came to North America and yes I found another family tree that said Lena Olsen was born in the USA .. I'm sorry I really have nothing to go on since she was never spoken of .. but talking to my mom a few mins ago .. she said she had heard the name uncle Julius .. I have my fingers crossed that this is the right track .. thank you all so much for you help and time ... |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 20:10:08
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quote: Originally posted by eibache
If Lena Marie Olsen = Olina Marie Iversdatter her parents Iver Olson and Johannah Aumndson (Johanna Amundsdatter) were married Aug 11 1888 in Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minn.
They got a son Olav 1889 and a dau. Anne 1894, returned to Norway where Olina Marie was born April 30.1896, see down page #35. She lives on farm Nærviksøren in Orkdal municipalitywith the parents Ivar (Olsen) Gjønnes, sawmillworker, and Hanna (Amundsdatter) Gjønnes and her two siblings born in Minnesota link
Two of Ivars brothers, Ole and Arnt Olsen Gjønnes em. to Minnesota. Hanna Amundsatter was also from Orkdal.
The reason I bring Olina Marie up again is because she is not in Orkdal with the parents 1910
Nor in the death records for Orkdal. Nor in the em. records.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/09/2013 20:17:34 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 20:14:25
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Okay then, susan, since Lena may have a brother Julius, let's look a little more at Iver Olsen in Otter Tail County, Minnesota, USA.
BURHAM FAMILY TREE, public family tree on Ancestry.com
Ivor Andreass Dass Olsen Birth 18 March 1860 in Norway Death 29 April 1911 in Pelican Rapids, Otter Tail County, Minnesota, USA
wife Jensine Marie Kibsgaard Pedersen Birth 18 Aug 1861 in Norway Death 26 June 1941
daughter Lena Marie Olsen <---------------------------------------- born 1896 in Minnesota died 1923
son Julius Benhard Olsen Birth 19 Dec 1906 in Minnesota Death 3 Mar 1979 in Alberta, Canada
All the Olsen children according to the Burnham family tree:
Ida Marie Olsen 1883 – 1929 Georg Andrew Olsen 1886 – 1964 Emil Ole Olsen 1888 – 1968 Christ Leonard Olsen 1890 – 1979 John Olsen 1891 – 1905 Clara Augusta Olsen 1894 – 1982 Lena Marie Olsen 1896 – 1923 Ingvald John Olsen 1899 – 1969 Emma Olsen 1901 – 1905 Ella Johanna Olsen 1903 – 1997 Julius Benhard Olsen 1906 – 1979 Alvin Peter Olsen 1908 – 1989
* the family tree does not include sources (or a few, but they seem in error). It does not list specifics on anyone but Julius.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 20:41:30
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Census-1900 Marriage 23 Oct 1881 Emigration on 29 May 1884 for Jensine and daughter Agda ("Ida"). Iver emigrated earlier. Or? Looks like spouse is above, listed as Hilmar Ols.?
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Edited by - jwiborg on 10/09/2013 21:01:05 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 21:06:46
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1900 US census says Iver came the year before Jensine Marie - which would be the typical family pattern of emigration.
from Jan Peter 1900 US Census Dunn and Scrambler Townships, Otter Tail, Minnesota Iver Oleson 40 born March 1860 in Norway , to USA 1883, married 18 years [married about 1882] Jensene Oleson 39 born August 1861 in Norway, to USA 1884, mother of 8 children, 8 living Ida Oleson 17 born July 1883 Norway George Oleson 14 born June 1886 Minnesota Emile Oleson 12 born April 1888 Minnesota Christ Oleson 10 born Feb 1890 Minnesota John Oleson 9 born Nov 1891 Minnesota Clara Oleson 6 born Jun 1894 Minnesota Lenna Oleson 4 born Sep 1896 Minnesota Ingvold Oleson 1 born March 1899 Minnesota
In 1905 family is still in Dunn, Otter Tail, Minnesota, there's a Paul Oleson age 30 enumerated with them.
From Jan Peter Registering to emigrate from Trondheim, Norway 28 May 1884 29 May 1884 * Jensine Ols., married, age 22, Dønn‘s, heading for Pelican Rapids Minn on the ship Hero of the Amerikan shipping line * Agda Ols age 10m, datr [daughter]
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Edited by - JaneC on 11/09/2013 13:48:23 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 21:13:07
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Ancestry for Jensine
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 21:16:47
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Jensine Maria Kibsgaard Pedersdatter born 18 Aug 1861 in Ugelfoden, Herøy, Nordland FATHER Peder Christian Benjaminsen, born 30 May 1832 in Ugelfoden, Herøy, Nordland MOTHER Karen Oline Jensdatter, born 16 Oct 1835 in Skei, Dønna, Dønnes, Nordland Jensine was baptised 19 September 1861 at Herøy Church in Herøy, Nordland --according to the family tree Jan Peter posted
The creator of the above family tree has traced Jensine's ancestry back and back: http://www.slekt.net/tng/pedigree.php?personID=I20869&tree=1
Marriage found by Jan Peter on Family Search, a free family history website: Ivar Andreas Dass Olsen, born 1859, his father = Ole Mathias Olsen marries Jensine Maria Kibsgaard, born 1861, her father = Peder Benjaminsen Date: 23 Oct 1881 in Herøy, Nordland, Norway
susan - don't know if you are familiar with names in Norway - but Jensine Maria is the daughter of Peder, so she has the patronymic name of Pedersdatter (or Pedersen, as a more modern way). The patronymic name is based on father's first name + son or + datter. Kibsgaard is an additional name - sounds like a place name (Kibs farm). |
Edited by - JaneC on 11/09/2013 18:00:35 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 21:49:30
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What an amazing portrait! Great find, Jane!
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Edited by - jwiborg on 10/09/2013 21:59:01 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 22:05:02
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Thanks for the help Jan Peter.
1900 US Census in Otter Tail, Minnesota, says Iver Oleson was born March 1860 in Norway
BIRTH RECORD on Family Search free website Ivert Andreas Dass Olsen Vogsvig Place: Alstahaug, Nordland, Norway Birth Date: 17 Mar 1860 Christening Date: 10 Jun 1860 Father: Ole Mathias Olsen Vogsvig Mother: Elisabeth Johanne Jacobsdatter Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42740-6, System Origin: Norway-EASy, GS Film number: 125057, Reference ID: bk16 p57
I think Alstahaug is on Alsten Island in Nordland, Helgeland, Norway, not too far south of the Arctic Circle. Google "Alstahaug kirke" (Alstahaug church) to see the beautiful church there.
That birth date is a close match to the birth given on the Find a Grave website of 18 March 1860. Attached to Iver Olsen memorial is this note: "Provided courtesy of the Otter Tail County Historical Society (www.otchs.org), which has further information available in its research library and on its web site."
MORE ABOUT CLARA
Lena's sister Clara, information from Find a Grave: Clara Augusta Olsen Hanson Birth: Jun. 30, 1894 Death: Sep. 24, 1982 married Roy V Hanson (1892 - 1982)
Apparently the family lived in Canada! circa 1920s
1940 US Census Pelican Rapids, Otter Tail, Minnesota Roy V Hanson 46 b Minnesota, war veteran Clara Hanson 45 born about 1895 Minnesota Edna Hanson 20 b Canada/English, teacher, rural school house Ivan Hanson 18 b Canada/English, repairing school house Louise Hanson 12 b Minnesota Nellie Hanson 8 b Minnesota Robert Hanson 7 b Minnesota Residence in 1935: same house
A daughter of Clara and Roy died last month in Minneapolis: Louise Jeanette Hanson Rostad Birth: Nov. 24, 1927 in Pelican Rapids, Otter Tail, Minnesota Death: Aug. 19, 2013 in Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota Louise is buried at Ringsaker Cemetery in Pelican Rapids. An obituary for her is posted on Find a Grave and here: http://www.larsonfuneralpelicanrapids.com/obituary/Louise-Rostad/Minneapolis-MN/1235814 Survivors listed are cousins to Susan. |
Edited by - JaneC on 11/09/2013 04:47:18 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 22:53:34
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#41 Agda Marie Beck(?) Born 14 Jul 1883 Chr: 19 Aug 1883, Herøy in Herøy, Nordland, Norway Parents: Iver Andreas Olsen b.1860 & Jensine Marie Pedersdr b.1861, Lillevik
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 23:11:23
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Nice! Agda Marie Beck Olsen - birth in July matches Ida Olsen birth in 1900 census, noted as July. So Iver and Jensine Marie are living in Lillevik in 1883? |
Edited by - JaneC on 11/09/2013 13:56:32 |
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