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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 27/09/2013 :  08:05:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maren conf here: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061114040020.jpg #62
Marte conf here: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061114040076.jpg #32

looked through the marriage records - found an older sister and 2 younger brothers but not them
Looking for ideas.

Hopkins
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Posted - 27/09/2013 :  11:30:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You've given links to two JPG files which do not tell us WHERE in Norway these girls were confirmed. (Capturing the line for 'permanent page' line instead of the 'permanent image' line from the Digitalarkivet would have allowed us to see the exact location, book title and page detail.) You've not given any real info except their first names.

Please give more complete information.

You know they survived to marriageable age? You have strong reason to think the girls actually married? Not everyone marries. Some people stay single their entire lives.
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eibache
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Posted - 27/09/2013 :  14:54:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please try and stay with earlier postings so we can see relationsships.
The records come from Asker, Akershus.
What exactly are you looking for?

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 27/09/2013 14:55:38
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 27/09/2013 :  17:30:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello - thanks for your replies - I forgot how that link worked, I'll straighten that out. The records are confirmation records so I know they made it to the teens. Couldn't find anything in the 1865 census. I will find the old post that identified these girls with their parents and siblings and continue there as I can see that would be helpful.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/09/2013 :  21:33:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#249 Hans Johansen (36) & Maren Kirstine Tollefsdatter (35½)
Marriage: 14 Dec 1857, Domkirken, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
He: Born Drøbak. Father: Johan Eliassen
She: Born Asker. Father: Tollef Andersen
Source: Oslo county, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Parish register (official) nr. 20 (1848-1865), Marriage records 1857, page 360.

Census-1865
Hans Johannes. (47) Fisherman
Maren Johannes. (45)
Torvald Lars. (16) Stepson, distiller
Carl Johan Johannes. (7) Son
Hanna Johannes. (4) Daughter

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 27/09/2013 22:19:22
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 27/09/2013 :  22:18:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that on Maren - I would have never found that
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Hopkins
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Posted - 27/09/2013 :  22:37:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The free databases at FamilySearch.org also show that record for you - that would point you to the exact date and location so the original record can be located.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NW3W-TF8

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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 17/10/2013 :  08:50:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1865 census information above by Jan Peter got me looking for a previous marriage of Maren Tollefsd. I found a birth record of Torvald here : http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7735&idx_id=7735&uid=ny&idx_side=-309.
I have been unable to find a marriage record for Maren and Lars looking through the registers in Asker for 1840 through 1851. I must be lacking some understanding on this so any help would be appreciated. I am also looking for birth records for the other two children listed in the 1865 census record but don't know exactly what the Christiania reference indicates.

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eibache
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Posted - 17/10/2013 :  09:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thorvald was an "uægte" child (born out of wedlock). His father Lars Andersen was a servant in Xtiania = Oslo when Thorvald was born. They probably never married.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 17/10/2013 11:36:10
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eibache
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Posted - 17/10/2013 :  09:27:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The baptismal record for Hanna is #176. Father fisherman Hans Johannesen, mother Maren Tollefsdatter. Living in Munkedamsveien 40.

Carl Johans baptismal record is #215. The father was then a sailor.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 17/10/2013 11:37:05
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 17/10/2013 :  22:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks
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