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Marlys Nelson
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 Posted - 10/11/2013 : 04:03:29
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Would appreciate help in finding information relative to Peder Pedersen’s birth and parents..
*Bachelor Peder Pedersen is engaged to Margrete Olsdatter Langeland on 18 Sep 1774 at Haltdalen. Link
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16228&idx_id=16228&uid=ny&idx_side=-119
*Peder Pedersen and Margrete Olsdatter are married 9 Oct 1774 at Haltdalen. Link
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16228&idx_id=16228&uid=ny&idx_side=-219
*Peder and Margrete have the following children:
1) Kiersti Pedersdtr. b. Dec 1774 at Aasen, Holtdalen. Baptized 01 Jan 1775. Married Joen Halstensen Gronset 07 Jun 1795.
2) Gunnil (aka Gunhil) Pedersdtr. b. Mar 1777 at Aasen, Holtdalen. Baptized 30 Mar 1776. Married Gunder Gundersen Frøyum/Fossen/Skårråen 04 Apr 1808 at Stjørdal, Nord-Trondelag. Gunnil died 06 Apr 1856 at Skårråen, Skatval, Nedre Stjørdal, NT. Gunnil is my 4th great-grandmother.
3) Hiertru (aka Gjertru) Pedersdtr. b. Dec 1779 at Ramloe, Holtdalen. Baptized 10 Dec 1779 at Holtdalen. Married Svend Joensen, Bjørgum 02 Jul 1807. Hiertur died 16 Jul 1857 at Bjørgum, Haltdalen.
4) Ole Pedersen b. Aug 1781 at Ramlo, Haltdalen. Baptized 02 Sep 1781 at Haltdalen.
5) Karen Pedersdtr. b. Feb 1784 at Ramnumgjerdet, Haltdalen. Baptized 08 Feb 1784 at Haltdalen. Married Joen Svendsen Hilmor frå Tydal 17 Jul 1808 in Tydal, Selbu, ST. Died on 17 Dec 1847 at Hilmoe, Tydal.
6) Peder Pedersen b. Jun 1787 at Ramloegjerdet, Haltdalen. Baptized 05 Jun 1787 at Haltdalen. Married Anne Pedersdtr. Flatbergenget 08 Apr 1828. Died on 05 Jan 1847 at Aas, Tydal, ST.
* Peder Pedersen dies 05 Jun 1817 on Asplassen, Haltdalen at the stated age of 72 years. This places his birth ca. 1745.
* Margrete Olsdatter dies 12 May 1826 at the stated age of 93 years. This places her birth ca. 1744.
* The 1801 –telling for 1645 Haltdaalen, ST provides the following information.
-Peder and Margrete are living on Aasplads under gård Aasen. Peder’s age is stated as
56 years old and Margretes is stated as 57 years old. This again places their births as ca. 1745 and 1744. This agrees with ages stated at their deaths. It also states this this is the first marriage for both of them.
-The farmer on Aasen is listed as Joe (should be Jon) Halstensen who married Peder and Margrete’s daughter Kiersti.
-Peder Pedersen (born 1787), the son of Peder and Margrete is also living on the farm as unmarried and working for farmer Jon Halstensen.
My conclusions are that Peder Pedersen was born about 1745, got married to Margrete Olsdatter Langeland in 1774. The first marriage for both people and that they had 6 children. Also, if the first boy of the family is named after his grandfather, the grandfather should be Peder Olsen?
I would appreciate any help in trying to identify Peder as far as his birth and his parents.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Gene Nelson – Stillwater, Minnesota
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/11/2013 : 10:40:47
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Info from Haltdalen bygdebook link tells that Peder Pedersen Aasen probably was from Hilmo in Tydal
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eibache
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Posted - 10/11/2013 : 10:42:15
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2) Gunnil (aka Gunhil) Pedersdtr. b. Mar 1777 at Aasen, Holtdalen. Baptized 30 Mar 1776.
- small correction. The baptism must have been in 1777, and from the record I read 1st Sunday after Easter = April 6, #21.
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Edited by - eibache on 10/11/2013 10:42:35 |
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eibache
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Posted - 10/11/2013 : 10:51:50
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Info from Haltdalen bygdebook link tells that Peder Pedersen Aasen probably was from Hilmo in Tydal
- I read this at the end:
" To my way of thinking, these two Peder Pedersens are not the same person. The one who married Kari Jonsdatter Ramloe in 1760 is definitely from Hilmo in Tydal. But the second one who married Margrete Olsdatter Langeland was definitely a bachelor. He was not listed as a widower in either the engagement or marriage records. Plus he was born about 1745."
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Marlys Nelson
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Posted - 10/11/2013 : 15:47:26
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Thanks to those providing information re: Peder Pedersen.
1) To the second post relative to baptism. You are correct as I was a little careless - it does state 1 a. Påskedag which is 06 Apr 1777. Thanks.
2) To the 1st and 3rd posts - I also don't believe that the Peder Pedersen I am looking for is from Tydal.
*Soldat Peder Pedersen Hilmoe frå Tydalen was born ca. 1730-1734 and was married to Kari Jonsdatter Ramloe in 1760.
*I know that the parish records are in error sometimes, but in this case there are three areas that collaborate one another.
Peder Pedersen Aasen was born ca, 1745 and when married was a bachelor and was married 1 time.
*I believe from the Trondelag article by Gene Singsaas, he thinks these two are different men. Also a review by Tore Nygaard (www.tore-nygaard.com/trondelag/984.htm) supports two differeent men.
The big problem is that the Haltdalen Parish baptism records don't cover the 1740's to 1750's and I belive the bygdebok is incorrect.
Thanks again, Gene Nelson |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/11/2013 : 15:56:47
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Probably the same misunderstanding here, Peder Pedersen Aasen and Peder Pedersen Hilmo was two. dif. persons since Peder Aasen was a bachelor when he married Margrethe Langeland, link
Same conclusion in Tore Nygaards pages, two dif. Peder Pedersen, link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/11/2013 16:03:26 |
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Marlys Nelson
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Posted - 24/07/2015 : 02:53:45
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I believe that I have found evidence that shows Peder Pedersen Åsen and Peder Pedersen Hilmoe are two different people.
For the fødte og døpte of Gulbrand Eggens datter Kiersti on 8â Trinit in 1871, side 67 (http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16228&idx_id=16228&uid=ny&idx_side=-72) the following witnesses were present: Gunille Peder Biorgums qvh, Alette Bersvend Drørvoldens qvh, Kari Peder Ramnums qvh, Ole Åsen, Anders Svendsen Biorgums, og Peder Pedersen Åsen.
This indicates that Kari Peder Ramnums qvende (Kari Jonsdtr. Ramloe) and Peder Pedersen Åsen were both present. This indicates that there are two Peder Pedersens and they are different. Peder Ramnums (Peder Pedersen Hilmoe) and Peder Pedersen Åsen.
Would appreciate comments from more experienced genealogists. Thanks, Gene Nelson |
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Who is Peder Pederson b. ca. 1745 Åsen, Haltdalen,
