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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/01/2014 : 04:14:02
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As far as arrivals for Thorer Moe, this is the best I could find. There is very little information on the manifest and I can not tell if he is travelling alone and what his age his.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: T Moe Gender: Male Date of Arrival: 1866 Vessel: Elvira Search Ship Database: Port of Arrival: Quebec Roll: C-4521 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/01/2014 : 20:18:42
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quote: Originally posted by conniekmoe
[quote][i] THANK YOU KARE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE WORK THE YOU AND OTHERS DID FOR ME. AMAZING!!!!
Thank you for kind words
A question: - Was Ole Christian Moe who married Lina Marie born Oct. 1871 in Kansas?
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conniekmoe
Starting member
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Posted - 13/01/2014 : 23:12:02
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quote: Originally posted by Kåarto
quote: Originally posted by conniekmoe
[quote][i] THANK YOU KARE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE WORK THE YOU AND OTHERS DID FOR ME. AMAZING!!!!
Thank you for kind words
A question: - Was Ole Christian Moe who married Lina Marie born Oct. 1871 in Kansas?
Kåre
You (all of you) are so welcome. This is so exciting. Yes, Ole Christian Moe was born Oct. 31, 1871 in Randall, Kansas (Jewell County). His parents were Hans Thorersen Moe and Elen Gorina Moe. I found on the Kansas State Census of 1915 that Lina Marie stated that she was born in Norway and came to Kansas from Wisconsin. Perhaps she had family there. I will try to find her in Wisconsin's census reports starting after 1892 when it appears she left Norway. Her daughter Mary Cornelia was born 1895 (I think in Randall, Kansas). |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/01/2014 : 02:03:02
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Probably due to the difficulty in reading the orginal manifest for the 1866 arrival of the Elvira, Ancestry.com and the Library and Archives Canada have different lists for the pasengers on the Elvira. Here is the second Moe listed on this ship on Ancestry.com.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: D O Moe Gender: Male Date of Arrival: 1866 Vessel: Elvira Search Ship Database: Port of Arrival: Quebec Roll: C-4521
And here is a link to the Quebec City Passenger Lists Index 1865-1900 which lists three different Moe's
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Edited by - AntonH on 14/01/2014 02:17:41 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/01/2014 : 02:59:38
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Perhaps this is Hans and family in Minnesota in the 1870 US Census. I had noticed in the 1875 Kansas Census that a Hans and Ellen Moe lived with five children. Children are Hans 13, Mary 8, Lena 6 and Ola 4 and Severt 2. Also listed is the fact that they came to Kansas from Minnesota.Here is that record.
Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 Name: H T Moe Census Date: 1 Mar 1875 Residence County: Cloud Residence State: Kansas Locality: Grant Birth Location: Norway Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Line: 16 Roll: ks1875_4 Household Member(s): Name Age H T Moe 48
Now here is the 1870 US Census for Hans and Ellen Moe. What throws off the search is the ages are wrong at 32 and 31. However the children are listed as Hans 9, Mary 5, and Lena 2. I think a good match for the children listed in the Kansas Census. Maybe the ages in 1870 for the parents are off by 10 years.
1870 United States Federal Census Name: Hans Moe Age in 1870: 32 Birth Year: abt 1838 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1870: Rushford, Fillmore, Minnesota Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Rushford Value of real estate: Household Members: Name Age Hans Moe 32
Everyone in the family is listed as having been born in Norway, however that is unlikely. At least Lena should have been born in Minnesota. |
Edited by - AntonH on 14/01/2014 03:28:47 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2014 : 09:03:59
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Relatives in Georgia? Link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/01/2014 09:05:29 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2014 : 09:29:25
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A last posting or do you want help from this forum to get further back?
Kristen Hansen, Bachelor from farm Fagernæs-eie and Maid Marie Borgersdatter Langgaards-eie married in Hurdal March 26. 1858. Last colum tells; "Begge er vaksinered" Both vaccinated (against small pox), see on top page #6
Fathers; Hans Christensen and Borger Pedersen.
Fagernæs-eie where Christen worked when he married Marie was a sub farm under Fagernæs, but born on Krestensrud. The ending -eie means owned by.
Some pictures from Krestensrud in northern Feiring in connection with collection to a primary school on Congo, Africa. Result; ca 4000 Dollar link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/01/2014 00:04:53 |
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conniekmoe
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Posted - 17/01/2014 : 05:39:28
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quote: Originally posted by Kåarto
A last postig or do you want help from this forum to get further back?
Kristen Hansen, Bachelor from farm Fagernæs-eie and Maid Marie Borgersdatter Langgaards-eie married in Hurdal March 26. 1858. Last colum tells; "Begge er vaksinered" Both vaccinated (against small pox), see on top page #6
Fathers; Hans Christensen and Borger Pedersen.
Fagernæs-eie where Christen worked when he married Marie was a sub farm under Fagernæs, but born on Krestensrud. The ending -eie means owned by.
Some pictures from Krestensrud in northern Feiring in connection with collection to a primary school on Congo, Africa.
Result; ca 4000 Dollar link
Kåre
Kare and others - I am so happy with all that you have found for our family. The only thing I can think of is that someone mentioned that Thorer Larsen Mo (Moe) and his wife Kari had another son by the name of Ole born in Gjerdrum. I was sent a link to look at the handwritten documentation. It is difficult for me to tell - but I can't seem to make out the names of this Ole's parents. If there was another son and not just Hans Thorersen Mo (Moe), is there any way to tell if he also immigrated to America. As I stated, if there is any of our family in Norway now…. a dream would be to one day meet them. God bless your all…. your talent and gifts really touch my heart. Family is so very important to me. Connie |
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conniekmoe
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Posted - 17/01/2014 : 06:34:27
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Thank you for the kind words. I am not sure that we have done a very complete job on the history of Thorer and his wife. We may have found a lot of information on Lina and have somewhat ignored Thorer as the information on him was much harder to find. In the grasping for straws department here are two finds plus the best immigration find. Anyway this could be his baptimal record. See what youi think. First entry right hand page.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7629&idx_id=7629&uid=ny&idx_side=-38
This same couple had a son Ole in 1804, See first entry right hand page.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7629&idx_id=7629&uid=ny&idx_side=-47
Hi - I think I am confused. Are you saying that these two links are for Thorer Larson (Mo) and possibly a brother Ole? If yes, then I can't make out the names of their parents. It looks like Lars (something) Landrum for the father but the mother's name I cannot read at all. Were they both born in Gjerdrum? I think I understand the naming Thorer is Lars's son, therefore, Thorer Larsen and he was from Mo. So, is Ole = Ole Larsen Mo or Landrum? Where does Lars get Landrum? I am really trying to learn all of this and so appreciate your assistance and patience.
Kare indicated that she found no other children for Thorer Larsen Mo and his wife Kari other than Hans Thorersen Mo. Is this what you are finding?
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/01/2014 : 07:29:22
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Connie you're doing really well understanding. The Ole in the link is being baptized. He is the son of Lars Christofferson Thoshaug and Lars' wife Kari Pedersdatter. The Lars Sandum and the others are found under the heading "fadder" which means they are godparents or witnesses to the baptism of Ole.
Classical Norwegian name is 1. given name or first name 2. patronymic name, your father's name with son or datter added depending what your sex is 3. farm name which functions as an address. Your first name seldom changes, you are always your father's child but if you move from farm to farm (and each farm in Norway has a name) the third part changes as you move. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/01/2014 : 08:17:09
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Thorer, the son of Lars Christophersen and Kari Pedersdatter, was baptized April 25 1802. The parents were then living on the Sandum farm.
Their 2nd son, Ole, was baptized April 8 1804. The parents were then living on the Thoshoug farm.
Lars Christophersen and Kari Pedersdatter, both living at Sandum, were married Dec 29 1801, #8.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/01/2014 : 08:29:33
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Lars Christophersen in 1801 - he was then 21 years old. His mother, Anne Olsdatter (41 years old) was in her 2nd marriage.
Lars parents, Christopher Larsen (from Nannestad) and Anne Olsdatter, Sandum were married July 14 1779, #3.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/01/2014 : 08:39:18
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Kari Pedersdatter, her parents and siblings in 1801.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/01/2014 : 18:16:22
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quote: Are you saying that these two links are for Thorer Larson (Mo) and possibly a brother Ole
Exactly, I was trying to say that, If this Thorer is the Thorer you were lookig for then yes he has a brother. |
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