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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 03/02/2014 : 22:07:26
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Hmmm, that's a problem. I can't find a death record either.
Let me gather together the key facts from your Ancestry.com tree:
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen f 29 July 1903
Spouse: Olivette Dupile
Haakon's father Johan Ludvig Pedersen f 1865
Haakon's mother Petrine Helene Pedersdtr f 1868
How about ordering Olivette's death record? It should tell her place of burial. Often times a spouse is buried with his/her spouse, even if they were miles apart and years apart when they died.
One family tree for him says Haakon died 1970. No source.
Another different Haakon Johansen died Sept 1972 NOT February 1972 as in the SSDI record posted, so presumably it's a different man. Oddly enough there are several people with this name to untangle.
Did Haakon have a nickname? Did he always go by Haakon?
As jkmarler says maybe he's not in the SSDI but still there should be a death record for him. Do you have family knowledge of his death? Do you recall did he die in New York?
Your Ancestry.com family tree shows him as a crewman in 1945. It's the last public record found for him:
Name: Haakon Johansen
Arrival Date: 27 Feb 1945
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Portsmouth,eng
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: President de Vogue |
Edited by - JaneC on 04/02/2014 01:34:35 |
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peder
Advanced member
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Posted - 04/02/2014 : 18:22:28
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to Jane C.
send me an email so I can send you an attachment of plenty of info about Olivette Dupile Johansen, Haakons wife. maybe something here that is useful.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/02/2014 : 02:10:17
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It's a weird thing when the exact piece of information you seek for somebody is the exact piece of information you need in order to get access to the record with that information.
I tried the New York Times archives but found no Haakon Johansen but two mentions of a Jack Johansen, 1 from 1952 and the other from 1963. No result on Olivette Johansen.
Perhaps there's a public library in the town that Olivette lived and they might have staff or volunteers who could look up an obit for her. Sometimes spouse obits give the exact date of death of the predeceased spouse.
Is the Random Acts of Kindness site still around? |
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haraldlonning
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 05/02/2014 : 13:48:54
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Originally posted by JaneC
Hmmm, that's a problem. I can't find a death record either.
Let me gather together the key facts from your Ancestry.com tree:
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen f 29 July 1903
Spouse: Olivette Dupile
Haakon's father Johan Ludvig Pedersen f 1865
Haakon's mother Petrine Helene Pedersdtr f 1868
How about ordering Olivette's death record? It should tell her place of burial. Often times a spouse is buried with his/her spouse, even if they were miles apart and years apart when they died.
One family tree for him says Haakon died 1970. No source.
Another different Haakon Johansen died Sept 1972 NOT February 1972 as in the SSDI record posted, so presumably it's a different man. Oddly enough there are several people with this name to untangle.
Did Haakon have a nickname? Did he always go by Haakon?
As jkmarler says maybe he's not in the SSDI but still there should be a death record for him. Do you have family knowledge of his death? Do you recall did he die in New York?
Your Ancestry.com family tree shows him as a crewman in 1945. It's the last public record found for him:
Name: Haakon Johansen
Arrival Date: 27 Feb 1945
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Portsmouth,eng
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: President de Vogue
Hi Jane. I have the death record of Olivette. I left it in my cottage last week, and I will return
Next weendend. Then I can recheck the record. She died 5. April 1983. Sconbee-Comb
Crematory. Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida.
As far as I know, Haakon had no nickname. Always go by Haakon.
He and Olivette visit Oslo for the first time after imigration in 1961-62. I can't remember
exact, but i think he died about 1970,
He lived in Long Beach, N.Y when he died, so I'm almost sure he is buried in N.Y.
Thank you very much to all of you, for your efforts and help here on the Forum, much
appreciated. Harald.
I found a femily tree in Ancestry belonging to someone who had copied
My picture of Olivette and my uncle in her tree, so I and sent her a email and asked for information about my ucle's death. It was 3 month since she had visit Ancestry, so I
hope for a answer.
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haraldlonning
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 05/02/2014 : 14:44:14
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I come across this siste where Haakon is called Jack Johansen?
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Name: Jack JOHANSEN
Given Name: Jack
Surname: Johansen
Sex: M
Birth: in Norway
Death: in Long Island,NY
Marriage 1 Olivette DUPILE b: in Canada
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peder
Advanced member
USA
835 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2014 : 15:03:48
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maybe something out of this will help
Marie had 2 sisters Ella Dupile 1905 and Anita Dupile 1909 ?? birth dates
Maine, Marriages, 1892-1996 Marriage & Divorce
Name: Leo Michaud
Spouse: Ella Dupil
Marriage: date - Maine, USA
Residence: city, ME
Residence: city, ME
Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Marriage & Divorce View Image
Name: Martha Anita Dupil
Birth: year - city, Quιbec (Quebec)
? birth date for Martha Anita Dupil
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NY MARRIAGES:
Name: Haakon Johansen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 13 Sep 1933
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, USA
Spouse: Olivette Dupill
Certificate Number: 19490
Purchase Certificate
Marie Olivette Dupile, b. Quebec? Doug wants dob.
Roots Web Les Dupile
ID: I61708646
Name: Olivette DUPILE
Given Name: Olivette
Surname: Dupile
Sex: F
Birth: in Canada
Death: in Boynton Beach,FL
Father: Alfred DUPILE b: 1876 in Berlin,NH
Mother: Marie Louise VALLIERE b: 21 Feb,1878 in Norton Mills,Vermont
Marriage 1 Jack JOHANSEN b: in Norway
1930
Name: Olivette Dupil
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1904
Birthplace: Canada
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Map of Home: View Map
Marital status: Single
Immigration Year: 1923
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: New Hampshire
Mother's Name: Marie Louise Dupil
Mother's Birthplace: Vermont
Marie Louise Dupil , married, 24 at 1st. m; b. Vt.; both parents b. Canada 52
Olivette Dupil , dau, S, b Canada/NH/Vermont, folder shoe shop 26
Alcide Dupil , son, S, b. Canada/NH/VT; bookkeeper shoe shop 24
Ella Dupil , dau., S, b. Canada ; stitcher shoe shop. 21
1921 Canadian Census - Compton, Quebec- no image just a hint found via Anestry which I cannot open with my US limited membership.
1911 Canadian Census 1911 - Sherbrooke, Quebec Ollivette Dupele [Searched Dupele; Dupil; Dupill; Dupile
DUPILE SEARCH = 1911 St. Jean Port Joli,, Quebec
DUPILE, J.A., Head, b. Jan 1877, 34; Ema Marie, wife, b. 1885, 26yrs.
ANCESTRY TREES ONLY TWO
Lonning_Johansen, Norway
Public Member Tree
6 attached records, 6 sources photos
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
Birth: 29.07.1903 (29 Jul 1903)
Spouse: Olivette Dupile
F: Johan Ludvig Pedersen
M: Petrine Helene Pedersdtr
Vairo Family Tree
Public Member Tree
1 attached record, 2 sources photos
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
Birth: 29.07.1903 (29 Jul 1903)
Death: 1970
Marriage: 1932
Spouse: Olivette Johansen
F: (Name Unknown)
M: (Name Unknown)
Both have photos.
1st. tree:
Lonning_Johansen, Norway
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
Birth 29.07.1903 in Saksenvik, Saltdal, Nordland, Norway
Death
His parents / photos
Johan Ludvig Pedersen
Birth 29.05.1865 in Indre Saksenvik, Saltdal, Nordland
Death 1909 in Saksenvik, Saltdal, Nordland
& mother:
Petrine Helene Pedersdtr
Birth 10.10.1868 in Ψvre Drageid , Nordland
Death 16 December 1946
Father & Mothers ancestry goes back on this tree.
Johan & Petrine had 6 children 5 / photos on this tree. One died young.
m. Sept 13, 1933 in Manhattan, NY to:
Olivette Dupile
Birth 4 Jul 1903 in Canada French
Death 5 Apr 1983 in Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, United States of America
Her parents:
Alfred J Dupile
1879 1945
Marie Louise Valiere
1878 1962
more info on Olivette
Birth
1903 4 Jul
Canada French
Baptism
1903
Sherbrooke (St-Jean-Baptiste), Quιbec
Residence
1911 Age: 8
Sherbrooke, Quebec
Residence
1911 Age: 8
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Residence
1911 Age: 8
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Residence
1921 1 Jun Age: 17
East Angus, Compton, Quebec, Canada
Residence
1921 1 Jun Age: 17
East Angus, Compton, Quebec, Canada
Arrival
1923 Age: 20
Residence
1930 Age: 27
Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Residence
1930 Age: 27
Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Residence
1930 Age: 27
Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Residence
1932 Age: 29
Lewiston, Maine, USA
Marriage to Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
1933 13 Sep Age: 30
Manhattan, New York, USA
Residence
1935 Age: 32
Long Beach, Nassau, New York
Residence
1940 1 Apr Age: 36
Long Beach, Nassau, New York, United States
Death
1983 5 Apr Age: 79
Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, United States of America
Cremation
1983 4 May
Sconbee-Combs Crematory, boynton Beach
2nd tree: Vairo Family Tree
FLORIDA DEATH RECORD FOR HER:
Name: Olivette Johansen
Death Date: 5 Apr 1983
County of Death: Palm Beach
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 79
Race: White
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1903
SS DEATH INDEX:
Name: Olivette Johansen
SSN: 078-05-7641
Last Residence: 33435 Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, USA
Born: 4 Jul 1903
Died: Apr 1983
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
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peder
Advanced member
USA
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peder
Advanced member
USA
835 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2014 : 15:33:24
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??
http://www.italiangen.org/records-search/naturalizations.php
Johannessen Haakon - - 87255 Declaration 1925-Mar-24 USDC-NY-Eastern District
Johansen Haakon - - 262787 Declaration 1937-Sep-02 USDC-NY-Eastern District
Johnsen Haakon - - 311626 Declaration 1941-Jun-11 USDC-NY-Eastern District
Johannessen Haakon - 369 113183 Petition 1928 USDC-NY-Eastern District
Johnsen Haakon - 1400 392370 Petition 1943 USDC-NY-Eastern District
Jensen Haakon 1904 029 15726 Declaration 1933 Nassau County, NY
Johansen Haakon 1903 034 19370 Declaration 1937 Nassau County, NY
Johnsen Haakon 1905 - 107654 Petition 1927-May-16 USDC-NY-Southern District
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haraldlonning
Starting member
Norway
24 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2014 : 18:47:35
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quote:
Originally posted by peder
maybe something out of this will help
Marie had 2 sisters Ella Dupile 1905 and Anita Dupile 1909 ?? birth dates
Maine, Marriages, 1892-1996 Marriage & Divorce
Name: Leo Michaud
Spouse: Ella Dupil
Marriage: date - Maine, USA
Residence: city, ME
Residence: city, ME
Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Marriage & Divorce View Image
Name: Martha Anita Dupil
Birth: year - city, Quιbec (Quebec)
? birth date for Martha Anita Dupil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NY MARRIAGES:
Name: Haakon Johansen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 13 Sep 1933
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, USA
Spouse: Olivette Dupill
Certificate Number: 19490
Purchase Certificate
Marie Olivette Dupile, b. Quebec? Doug wants dob.
Roots Web Les Dupile
ID: I61708646
Name: Olivette DUPILE
Given Name: Olivette
Surname: Dupile
Sex: F
Birth: in Canada
Death: in Boynton Beach,FL
Father: Alfred DUPILE b: 1876 in Berlin,NH
Mother: Marie Louise VALLIERE b: 21 Feb,1878 in Norton Mills,Vermont
Marriage 1 Jack JOHANSEN b: in Norway
1930
Name: Olivette Dupil
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1904
Birthplace: Canada
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Map of Home: View Map
Marital status: Single
Immigration Year: 1923
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: New Hampshire
Mother's Name: Marie Louise Dupil
Mother's Birthplace: Vermont
Marie Louise Dupil , married, 24 at 1st. m; b. Vt.; both parents b. Canada 52
Olivette Dupil , dau, S, b Canada/NH/Vermont, folder shoe shop 26
Alcide Dupil , son, S, b. Canada/NH/VT; bookkeeper shoe shop 24
Ella Dupil , dau., S, b. Canada ; stitcher shoe shop. 21
1921 Canadian Census - Compton, Quebec- no image just a hint found via Anestry which I cannot open with my US limited membership.
1911 Canadian Census 1911 - Sherbrooke, Quebec Ollivette Dupele [Searched Dupele; Dupil; Dupill; Dupile
DUPILE SEARCH = 1911 St. Jean Port Joli,, Quebec
DUPILE, J.A., Head, b. Jan 1877, 34; Ema Marie, wife, b. 1885, 26yrs.
ANCESTRY TREES ONLY TWO
Lonning_Johansen, Norway
Public Member Tree
6 attached records, 6 sources photos
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
Birth: 29.07.1903 (29 Jul 1903)
Spouse: Olivette Dupile
F: Johan Ludvig Pedersen
M: Petrine Helene Pedersdtr
Vairo Family Tree
Public Member Tree
1 attached record, 2 sources photos
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
Birth: 29.07.1903 (29 Jul 1903)
Death: 1970
Marriage: 1932
Spouse: Olivette Johansen
F: (Name Unknown)
M: (Name Unknown)
Both have photos.
1st. tree:
Lonning_Johansen, Norway
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
Birth 29.07.1903 in Saksenvik, Saltdal, Nordland, Norway
Death
His parents / photos
Johan Ludvig Pedersen
Birth 29.05.1865 in Indre Saksenvik, Saltdal, Nordland
Death 1909 in Saksenvik, Saltdal, Nordland
& mother:
Petrine Helene Pedersdtr
Birth 10.10.1868 in Ψvre Drageid , Nordland
Death 16 December 1946
Father & Mothers ancestry goes back on this tree.
Johan & Petrine had 6 children 5 / photos on this tree. One died young.
m. Sept 13, 1933 in Manhattan, NY to:
Olivette Dupile
Birth 4 Jul 1903 in Canada French
Death 5 Apr 1983 in Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, United States of America
Her parents:
Alfred J Dupile
1879 1945
Marie Louise Valiere
1878 1962
more info on Olivette
Birth
1903 4 Jul
Canada French
Baptism
1903
Sherbrooke (St-Jean-Baptiste), Quιbec
Residence
1911 Age: 8
Sherbrooke, Quebec
Residence
1911 Age: 8
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Residence
1911 Age: 8
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Residence
1921 1 Jun Age: 17
East Angus, Compton, Quebec, Canada
Residence
1921 1 Jun Age: 17
East Angus, Compton, Quebec, Canada
Arrival
1923 Age: 20
Residence
1930 Age: 27
Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Residence
1930 Age: 27
Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Residence
1930 Age: 27
Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine
Residence
1932 Age: 29
Lewiston, Maine, USA
Marriage to Haakon Peder Johan Johansen
1933 13 Sep Age: 30
Manhattan, New York, USA
Residence
1935 Age: 32
Long Beach, Nassau, New York
Residence
1940 1 Apr Age: 36
Long Beach, Nassau, New York, United States
Death
1983 5 Apr Age: 79
Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, United States of America
Cremation
1983 4 May
Sconbee-Combs Crematory, boynton Beach
2nd tree: Vairo Family Tree
FLORIDA DEATH RECORD FOR HER:
Name: Olivette Johansen
Death Date: 5 Apr 1983
County of Death: Palm Beach
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 79
Race: White
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1903
SS DEATH INDEX:
Name: Olivette Johansen
SSN: 078-05-7641
Last Residence: 33435 Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, USA
Born: 4 Jul 1903
Died: Apr 1983
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
The Johansen_Lonning tree owns by me. The other tree: Owner of Vario family tree have received an email from me asking for contact.
I have today updatet the Dupile family in my tree. I found a prosject Les Dupile in
Rootsweb, owner Alcide Dupile, who is Olivette's brother. He died in 1969. But his son Bradford Dupile is alive, so I will try to contact him. |
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Haakon Peder Johan Johansen, 29. July 1903.
