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JackWilson
Junior member
Philippines
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 Posted - 29/07/2014 : 09:19:20
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Name: Carl Johan Olsen
Gender: Male
Event Date: 23 Sep 1834
Event Place: KRISTIANSUND,MORE OG ROMSDAL,NORWAY
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1834
Father's Name: Ole Hammer
Mother's Name: Karen Kirstine Abrahamsdr
My Charles was born on the same date.need to connect. |
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Edited by - JackWilson on 29/07/2014 09:20:19 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/07/2014 : 14:53:29
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Carl could well be Charles.
Your Carles was born on the same day but you do not know the name of his parents, is that correctly perceived by me?
Ole Hammer and Karen Kirstine Abrahamsdatter of Kristiansund #88
Its a + behind Carl Johans name, not sure if it means he died young.
The Church books for when he was confirmated are partly burned.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/07/2014 : 15:04:02
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A Family tree, but no info on Carl Johan link
Carl Johan Olsen Hammer, did he live as;
Charles Olsen or Charles Hammer, both names are correct.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 29/07/2014 15:05:46 |
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JackWilson
Junior member
Philippines
62 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2014 : 15:10:16
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| He came to America about 1862-3 and changed his name from Olsen to Wilson. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2014 : 17:08:36
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A namesake or...........link
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 30/07/2014 14:43:32 |
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JackWilson
Junior member
Philippines
62 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2014 : 17:19:49
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| That was interesting. Someone else put that up and I never seen it. I just added to it. Thanks! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/07/2014 : 17:36:27
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Based on Kċre's link this is probably the family in the 1900 US Census. Along with wife, two daughters and son-in-law.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Charles Wilson
Age: 64
Birth Date: Jun 1835
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 5, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1863
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Catherine E Wilson
Marriage Year: 1863
Years Married: 37
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Wilson 64
Catherine E Wilson 54
Mary Wilson 22
Ida Lezak 20
Vincint Lezak 27
William Lezak 2 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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JackWilson
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Philippines
62 Posts |
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JackWilson
Junior member
Philippines
62 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2014 : 01:20:43
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| Yes, that young lady was helping me last year. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/07/2014 : 14:42:24
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A namesake or...........link
Add information on Charles Olsen/Wilson:
His death certificate states that his father was Charles (Carl)
Carl Carlsen (Carls son) b. 1834, father Charles/Carl (Olsen?)
Behind a photo of him its written Oslo.
Oslo changed name 1664 to Christiania and changed back to Oslo 1925.
Carl b. 1834, for him Oslo was Christiania so the name Oslo must have be written later.
The handwritten indistinct word in front of Oslo that has been interpreted as Christiania (Oslo) could well be Christiansund (Kristiansund) or Christiansand (Kristiansand)
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JackWilson
Junior member
Philippines
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Posted - 30/07/2014 : 15:04:58
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| Yes, that reference was someone who did that for me. I did not even know that he did it. I am convinced it is Kristiansund but you know how that can go. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/07/2014 : 16:11:20
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I do not find other candidates.
Carl Johan was a popular name in the 1800s, it refers to king Carl Johan
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/07/2014 : 16:22:22
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Here is a quote of Jane's last post on page 15 of the previous topic:
"You have found a CARL WILSON FROM CHRISTIANSUND ! ! ! ! ! !
We have:
Charles Wilson of Brooklyn, likely born 19 June 1834.
Carl Johan Olsen of Christiansund, born 19 June 1834.
Karl Johan, king of Norway, aka Charles John
Charles Wilson of Brooklyn has a son Charles John
Charles Wilson of Brooklyn is a seafaring man first and then, as he becomes a family man and works from home, he works on boats in the harbor
Carl Johan Olsen of Christiansund has a father and family who are seafaring people and people who work on boats
Carl Johan Olsen of Christiansund has not been found in later census in Norway, even though his mother and siblings are found.
A Carl Wilson from Christiansund jumps ship; no person named Carl Wilson exists in Christiansund,
"Our" Charles Wilson of Brooklyn jumps ship
Carl Wilson of Christiansund is born about 1833-1835
As I see it, and as mentioned already in the forum, jumping ship doesn't preclude being a father. Being a father could be the reason he jumped ship. We don't know the story in full.
When we started this project, we all knew it's impossible to establish with absolute certainty the connection between Brooklyn and Norway. The best outcome I hoped for was to find bits and pieces of evidence. We would make a pile of these bits of evidence. At some point, we could say, that's a pretty big pile of coincidences.
Taken together, the facts accumulated make it likely we have found the right person in Norway.
A DNA test could be done to establish further proof, working with a descendant of Ole Olsen Hammer in Norway. Further records on Charles in USA can be checked (such as the original of the naturalization record, probably the one in Kings County.)..."
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JackWilson
Junior member
Philippines
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Posted - 30/07/2014 : 16:50:57
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| Now if only someone from Norway would see this and they are researching also, I could do a dna. |
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Olsen Carl Johan need proof of relationship
