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cherylhouse
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Posted - 15/04/2015 :  20:34:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My paternal great grandmother was Karen Simensdr in the marriage information I have about her. She married Bernt Hermansen in Furnes, Hedmark, Norway on 8/16/1885. Her father was Simen Larsen. She was born January 8, 1857 and came to the USA about 1886 with her husband (I assume). I would like more information as to where she was born or baptized and perhaps some information from the 1865 census which might include her mother's name.
Thanks for any help you can give.

eibache
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Posted - 15/04/2015 :  20:42:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karen Simensdatter, her parents and siblings in 1865.

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eibache
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Posted - 15/04/2015 :  20:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I read her birthdate as Jan 9 1857, see #17.
Her parents were living at Kaatorp when she was born.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 15/04/2015 :  20:55:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The marriage record is #17 on the right page.
Her husband was Bernt Hermandsen, Vold.

Einar
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cherylhouse
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  03:37:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much. I wonder what Kaatorp is which is where her parents were living when she was born. Also I wonder if there would be information about birth or baptism for either of her parents (Simen Larssen (born about 1822) and Ingeborg Christofersdatter (born about 1829). Thanks
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eibache
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  07:23:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kaatorp (today Kåtorp) was the name of a farm. The farm does not exist anymore, today is built a retirement center in the area, see link.
You can zoom and pan to your liking.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 16/04/2015 08:13:15
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eibache
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  09:15:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simen Larsen and Ingeborg Christofersdatter were at the following places when their children was born:
Lise, born July 8 1853 at Freberg, #57,
Christian, born Jan 1 1855 at søndre Kaatorpeie, #10,
Karen, born 1857 (see earlier posting,
Anders, born March 10 1859 at Halsetheie, #58,
Ingeborg, born Aug 30 1861 at Alving, #107,
Ole, born Febr 17 1866 at Hoelseie, #20

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 16/04/2015 09:28:18
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eibache
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  09:45:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A marriage record would give their fathers names to confirm a possible baptisimal record.
No marriage record found for this purpose.

Einar
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  16:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps this is a marriage record for Simen and Ingeborg.

Simen Larsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Simen Larsen
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1827
Marriage Date: 4 apr 1852
Marriage Place: Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Jensen
Spouse: Ingeborg Christohersdr
FHL Film Number: 307210
Reference ID: bk 3 p 271

Brides father is listed as Christopher Olsen.

See also number 19

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8840&idx_id=8840&uid=ny&idx_side=-340

Edited by - AntonH on 16/04/2015 16:38:07
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  16:58:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a possible candidate for the bride Ingeborg Christophersdtr.

Name: Inge Magrethe Christophersdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 21 jul 1833
Baptism Date: 11 aug 1833
Baptism Place: Vang, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Christopher Olsen
Mother: Kari Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 124478

See also number 107

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9060&idx_id=9060&uid=ny&idx_side=-91

Edited by - AntonH on 16/04/2015 16:59:03
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  17:00:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found this record for a Simen but no record in Digitalarkivet.

Name: Simen Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 jun 1825
Baptism Date: 21 aug 1825
Baptism Place: , Vang, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Jenssen
Mother: Kari Simensdr
FHL Film Number: 124477
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eibache
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  19:57:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simens baptismal record is next to the last on left page.
Father Lars Jensen and Kari Simensdatter, Schraastad.

Einar
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  22:28:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Possible record for the marriage of Lars Jensen and Kari Simensdatter.

Kari Simensdr in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Kari Simensdr
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 13 nov 1812
Marriage Place: Vang,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Lars Jensen
FHL Film Number: 124477

See also right hand page, middle.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9051&idx_id=9051&uid=ny&idx_side=-44
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cherylhouse
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Posted - 25/07/2015 :  02:29:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I notice that higher up in these messages that I just reread today that Bernt Hermansen is listed as Bernt Hermansen, Vold. What does the Vold stand for? Is it a farm? He took the name Wold when he was in America and that is the name that still carries through. Could the Wold come from that Vold I see in that section above? It is so interesting, as I was just talking to a relative from Alaska about where the Wold name came from and they had no idea. They were told that Bernt thought there were too many Hermansens in the USA. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/07/2015 :  02:48:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The name likely comes from the farm name Vold or Wold spelling depends on era etc. Here is the entry for the farm Vold in Oluf Rygh's book on Norwegian Farm Names from Hedmark, Vang parish.

Listen over gårder er hentet fra "Norske Gaardnavne".

v.3, p.100
192. Vold. Udt. vøLL. -- Woldt 1604.1/1, 1/2. Wold 1669.
1723.1/1.

*V&bmaapeno;llr m. (Indl. S. 87).

http://www.dokpro.uio.no/rygh_ng/rygh_form.html

Enter
Hedemarkens amt for Hedmark in the box for County
Enter
Vang for Parish

Scroll down to Vold, check the box for 192 and click on search.

Same info here, probably from the Rygh book

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Vang,_Hedmark,_Norway

Edited by - AntonH on 25/07/2015 03:02:23
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