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kenolson
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 Posted - 21/07/2015 : 14:40:09
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| Searching for information about my mother's cousin, Thorlief Diesen. He was born 1 May 1893 in Buskerud County, Frogner in Lier. His father was Ole marius Pedersen (Sjaesmo), mother was Indiana Amundson. Thorlief and his parents emigrated to USA in 1910 and lived in Northwood, North Dakota for a while, and in Tioga, North Dakota. The family lost track of Thorlief completely in 1930. Does he have descendants? in Norway? or in USA? |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/07/2015 : 16:12:16
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In 1910 he was single and living and living with a lady listed as his grandmother.
Torleif Diesen
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Torleif Diesen
Age in 1910: 16
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Golden Valley, Williams, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1903
Relation to Head of House: Grandson
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Gina Diesen 73
Torleif Diesen 16
Still single in 1917.
Thorleif Diesen
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Thorleif Diesen
County: Steele
State: North Dakota
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Date: 1 May 1893
Race: White
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/07/2015 : 16:15:46
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His parents' marriage #30:
Source information: Akershus county, Nes in Nes, Parish register (official) nr. I 10 (1883-1898), Marriage records 1888, page 458.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5521&idx_id=5521&uid=ny&idx_side=-338
An older brother Peter Andor Gilbert #19:
Source information: Akershus county, Nes in Nes, Parish register (official) nr. I 10 (1883-1898), Birth and baptism records 1888, page 72.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5521&idx_id=5521&uid=ny&idx_side=-75
Sister Asta Nathilda #
Source information: Buskerud county, Frogner in Lier, Parish register (official) nr. 15 (1883-1894), Birth and baptism records 1891, page 119.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3972&idx_id=3972&uid=ny&idx_side=-125
The family in 1900:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037045166395
001 13 Ole P. Skjesmo 1865 Odalen hf g Løsarbeider b
002 13 Indiane Skjesmo 1852 Nes Romer. hm g b
003 13 Inga Skjesemo 1883 Nes Romer. d ug b
004 13 Gilbert O. Skjesmo 1888 Nes Romer. s ug b
005 13 Asta O. Skjesmo 1891 Lier d ug b
006 13 Ejnar O. Skjesmo 1895 Lier s ug b
007 13 Tholeif O. Skjesmo 1893 Lier s ug b
Family in 1910 Norway:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01036392180542
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/07/2015 : 16:36:07
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Some of the information I find does not fit perfectly with the Original Posters information. Ancestry.com data seems to indicate Thorleif Marjus age 10 came to the US in 1903 with grandparents Peder Olsen Diesen age 61 and Gina Andrea Diesen age 64 along with daughter ? age 22 named Gelsie ? and going to visit brother unreadable first name Diesen in Minnewauken North Dakota.
Gina Andrea Duren
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Gina Andrea Duren
[Gina Andrea Diesen]
Arrival Date: 1 Jun 1903
Birth Date: abt 1839
Age: 64
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cymric |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/07/2015 : 16:56:14
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Several trees on Ancestry.com indicate that the grandparents died in North Dakota. Grandfather died Dec 13, 1909 in Tioga, Williams, North Dakota and grandmther died Dec 9, 1915 in Tioga, Williams, North Dakota. Record for grandson Thorlief Marius Diesen end with the WWI record posted above.
Father Ole Marius Pedersen is listed as having died in 1922 in Norway. Mother is listed as having died in 1914 no location given. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/07/2015 : 17:24:10
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Here is a copy of the Diesen's leaving through Oslo in 1903:
Peder Olsen Diesen Lier 61 1903 Dacota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930
Gina Diesen Lier 66 1903 Dacota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930
Elise Diesen Lier 22 1903 Dacota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930
Torleif Diesen Lier 10 1903 Dacota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930
Here is a possible brother Einar leaving for US:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000374073
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JaneC
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/07/2015 : 18:34:41
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Somewhat confusing relationships here in 1930 transcription:
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Eden A Arness Head M 59 Norway
Emma Arness Wife F 34 North Dakota
Errett A Arness Son M 14 North Dakota
Mendell H Arness Son M 13 North Dakota
Thorleifson Deisen Half-brother M 37 Norway ***** CONFIRMED!
District: 0045 , Sheet Number and Letter: 4A , Household ID: 87 , Line Number: 18 , Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) , Affiliate Publication Number: T626 , Affiliate Film Number: 1736 , GS Film number: 2341470 , Digital Folder Number: 004547409 , Image Number: 00254
"United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XKV3-L8Z : accessed 21 July 2015), Thorleifson Deisen in household of Eden A Arness, Northwood, Grand Forks, North Dakota, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 0045, sheet 4A, family 87, line 18, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 1736; FHL microfilm 2,341,470.
Their marriage from the Grand Forks County Marriage License search at Special Collections of Chester Fritz Library:
24 Nov 1914 Emma Amelia Olson Edon A Arnes bk 6 pg30 cert.# 14-410
Edon Arness family in 1920:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC81-X31
Edon Arnes family in 1940 transcribed at archives.com:
Edon A. Arnes
1940 Census Record
Gender:Male
Race:White
Age at Time of Census:70
Est. Birth Year:1870
Birth Location:Norway
Enumeration District:31-22
Residence:
East Stanwood, East Stanwood Election Precinct, Snohomish, WA
Language:English
Marital Status:Married
Relationship to Head:Head
Line 2
1940 U.S. Federal Population Census
Members in Household
Emma Gunderson 61 yrs, Female
Emma Arnes 43 yrs, Female
Everett Arnes 25 yrs, Male
Wendel Arnes 23 yrs, Male
Edon Arnes' death in 1940:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/C00692459E5C63D9D38DD4C37340B169
Edon Anderson Aarnes leaving through Oslo in 1888:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000462332
Edon Anderson Aarnes #24 in 1888 leaving Nes (the same parish Thorleif's mother was from)
Source information: Akershus county, Nes in Nes, Parish register (official) nr. I 10 (1883-1898), Emigration records 1889, page 569.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5521&idx_id=5521&uid=ny&idx_side=-439
Emma's second marriage in 1946:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/DigitalObject/View/880889315CD8A95DC156CFEA344FC585
Wendel's marriage gives his mother's name as Emma Olson and her birthplace as Bartlett, N.D and his father as Edon A Arnes born at Oslo, Norway:
http://digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/073F4A193744F34A5AA7D20059E98DF8_1.jpg
Emma Matterand's SSDI version at Washington State Secretary of State site:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/F66B823602F2509A715E4DCEA03A6AF8
Birthdate given as 18 Aug 1895
Here is Emma Olson in 1900 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9V5-V3X
Everett A. Arnes
Sedro-Woolley WA United States
Everett A. Arnes, 91, a resident of Sedro-Woolley since 1949, passed away on Monday, February 19, 2007 at the Life Care Center of Skagit Valley in Sedro-Woolley, WA. He was born on October 3, 1915 in Northwood, North Dakota, the son of Edon and Emma (Olson) Arnes. He was raised and attended school in Northwood, North Dakota and after graduating from high school he attended the Asbury Seminary. He later moved to Stanwood, WA with his family. Everett was one of very few that volunteered to go to the South Pole (Antarctic) to rescue Admiral Byrd's party from 1940 to1941. He signed on as a civilian photographer and flew over the South Pole and took aerial photographs of the South Pole. It was also his first and last airplane ride! In 1939 Everett rode his motorcycle across the United States to the Chicago Worlds Fair and returned by way of the Southern States. He was later employed at Puget Sound Power and Light where he was a dispatcher until his retirement. He was united in marriage to Rosemary Thurmond in June of 1942 in Stanwood and they made their home in Sedro-Woolley. Everett enjoyed photography, fishing, golf and making miniature model steam engines. He was an avid leader and supporter of the Cub and Boy Scouts and was instrumental in acquiring the Black Mountain Boy Scout Camp. He was a member of the Bethlehem Lutheran Church, the Sons of Norway and Everett started the Puget Sound Live Steamers Association where he served as both president and vice-president. He is survived by 4 sons; Everett Arnes of Houston, Texas, Terry Arnes and his wife, Suwannee of Atwater, California, Herb Arnes and his companion, Linda Brown of Stanwood and Bruce Arnes of North Dakota. 6 grandchildren, Susan, Brian, Nolan, Bobby, Linda and Aaron; 6 great-grandchildren and numerous nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his parents, his wife, Rosemary in 1997, a brother, Wendall Arnes and a daughter-in law, Lehila (Carroll) Arnes. Graveside services will be held on Friday, March 2, 2007 at 11:00 AM at the Anderson Cemetery in Stanwood, WA. Memorials are suggested to the Alzheimer's Association, 12721 30th Ave. N.E. Suite 101, Seattle, WA 98125. Services and arrangements under the direction of Lemley Chapel, Sedro-Woolley. Share memories of Everett and sign the online guestbook at www.lemleychapel.com
Skagit Valley Herald (Mount Vernon, WA) - Tuesday, February 27, 2007 CITE THIS RECORD
"Skagit Valley Herald", , GenealogyBank.com (http://genealogybank.com/doc/obituaries/obit/1470BA17A82177D0-1470BA17A82177D0 : accessed 21 July 2015)
Everett A. Arnes
Edom is an illegitimate son of Indianne Amundsdatter, Thorlief's mother and therefore Thorleif's half brother #28:
Source information: Akershus county, Nes in Nes, Parish register (official) nr. I 8 (1859-1874), Birth and baptism records men 1870, page 84.
Permanent pagelink: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=535&idx_id=535&uid=ny&idx_side=-93" target="_blank">http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=535&idx_id=535&uid=ny&idx_side=-93
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/07/2015 : 20:46:57
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Several trees on Ancestry.com indicate that the grandparents died in North Dakota. Grandfather died Dec 13, 1909 in Tioga, Williams, North Dakota and grandmther died Dec 9, 1915 in Tioga, Williams, North Dakota. Record for grandson Thorlief Marius Diesen end with the WWI record posted above.
Father Ole Marius Pedersen is listed as having died in 1922 in Norway. Mother is listed as having died in 1914 no location given.
Do they give exact dates of death for Ole Marius and Indianne?
The printed transcribed records of the burials of Peder Olson Diesen and Gina says that the obituary of Peter says he is survived by five sons, so they were apparently not counting Elise. One of the sons is identified as Palmer Diesen.
The WWI registration of Thorleif says that his address is Horse Creek or Hesper Montana. |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/07/2015 : 00:11:47
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Also in the WWI Draft Registation, he states that he is employed by J. E. Blegeberg. Pobaby this person, however I have only found him living in Steele County, North Dakota.
J E Blegeberg
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: J E Blegeberg
[J E Blegiberg]
Birth Year: abt 1872
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Iowa
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Westfield, Steele, North Dakota
Name Age
J E Blegeberg 58
Jean Blegeberg 66
Mother and father born in Norway.
Jakob E Blezeberg
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Jakob E Blezeberg
[Jakob E Blegeberg]
Age in 1910: 38
Birth Year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Iowa
Home in 1910: Westfield, Steele, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Jane Blezeberg
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jakob E Blezeberg 38
Jane Blezeberg 47
Myrtle C Blezeberg 8
Almer K Blezeberg 6
Lillian Carlson 19
Olaf Amandson 20
Sivert Ringheim 26
No sign of Thorlief in these two census records. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/07/2015 : 00:15:36
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And in 1920, still no sign of Thorlief.
Jacob E Blegeberg
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Jacob E Blegeberg
Age: 47
Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Iowa
Home in 1920: Sharon, Steele, North Dakota
House Number: Farm
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Jane Blegeberg
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: General Farm
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Free
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob E Blegeberg 47
Jane Blegeberg 56
Myrtile C Blegeberg 17
Kinred E Blegeberg 15 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/07/2015 : 00:58:21
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Do they give exact dates of death for Ole Marius and Indianne?
No only the year as I listed it. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/07/2015 : 01:06:19
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
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Do they give exact dates of death for Ole Marius and Indianne?
No only the year as I listed it.
Okay, many thanks. |
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Looking for Thorlief Diesen
