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jkmarler
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 Posted - 07/11/2015 : 02:34:44
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I have gone through this record set and found no Sandersen, two Alexandersens and numerous Herman with other last names
Østfold fylke, Fredrikstad mønstringskontor, Yngre ruller, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 6 (SAO/A-10569b/F/Fc/Fca/L0006), 1889-1903, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle, patent nr. 2891-4355. |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 02:43:32
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Originally posted by jkmarler
I have gone through this record set and found no Sandersen, two Alexandersens and numerous Herman with other last names
Østfold fylke, Fredrikstad mønstringskontor, Yngre ruller, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 6 (SAO/A-10569b/F/Fc/Fca/L0006), 1889-1903, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle, patent nr. 2891-4355.
What record set?
The Sander Sandersen question is a person I found on FamilySearch. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 03:49:15
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Østfold fylke, Fredrikstad mønstringskontor, Yngre ruller, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 6 (SAO/A-10569b/F/Fc/Fca/L0006), 1889-1903, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle, patent nr. 2891-4355.
Above is the description of the record set. It's from Østfold in eastern Norway, the town is Fredrikstad and what it is is mustering in records of sailors and details of their voyages.
Found no people with last name Sandersen, there were quite a few Herman first named people but with different last names. The other Alexandersen was Sigvart Alexandersen. He was born and /or baptized in Glemminge b. 24 Jan 1874. He went "romt" in 1893 which roughly means AWOL.
Sigvard #105:
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Glemmen, Klokkerbok nr. 4 (1867-1875), Fødte og døpte 1874, side 189-190.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7458&idx_id=7458&uid=ny&idx_side=-97
The reason to look for your Herman here is to follow Jan Peter's hunch that your guy came from Østfold. Several communities in Østfold mustering in records are mounted on the web at the Norwegian digitalarkivet. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 07/11/2015 05:07:22 |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 03:57:03
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Østfold fylke, Fredrikstad mønstringskontor, Yngre ruller, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 6 (SAO/A-10569b/F/Fc/Fca/L0006), 1889-1903, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle, patent nr. 2891-4355.
Above is the description of the record set. It's from Østfold in eastern Norway, the town is Fredrikstad and what it is is mustering in records of sailors and details of their voyages.
Found no people with last name Sandersen, there were quite a few Herman first named people but with different last names. The other Alexandersen was Sigvart Alexandersen. He was born and /or baptized in Glemminge b. 24 Jan 1874. He went "romt" in 1893 which roughly means AWOL.
The reason to look for your Herman here is to follow Kåre's hunch that your guy came from Østfold. Several communities in Østfold mustering in records are mounted on the web at the Norwegian digitalarkivet.
Hmmm.. I'm not sure I could see someone changing their name from Sigvart Alexandersen to Herman Sandersen.
I still think this Sander Sandersen born 18 December 1874 in Varteig, Østfold, Norway to Syver Sandersen and Tilla Marie Svennungsdr sounds a little more reasonable to me. Especially since his daughter's baptism started out saying father's name Sander Sandersen, but then they scratched out Sander and wrote Herman - perhaps he slipped up at first saying his old name, and then remember he's now using Herman.
I'm not very good with all the Norwegian stuff, and although I know they usually carry the last name based on their father's first name, I know that a lot of the more recent ones just used their father's last name.
So any other ideas would be appreciated! :) I have no other way to find out any more. His wife Sarah Elizabeth Sandersen (nee Englebrecht) never had a death notice in the province she's buried - which either means it wasn't reported, or she died in a different province, and they haven't uploaded those files to the internet yet. Herman died before the years that they've posted online, so I can't find him either. |
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jkmarler
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AngelaBoger
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 04:24:11
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Originally posted by AngelaBoger
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Okay your Sander born in Varteig #4:
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Varteig, Ministerialbok nr. 1 (1861-1877), Fødte og døpte 1875, side 58.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5776&idx_id=5776&uid=ny&idx_side=-62
Any way to find out if that Sander Sandersen travelled or any other information?
Well he must have moved to Skeberg since he's there in the census but I didn't see him in the parish register of Varteig moving out (but I did move through the register very quickly.)
Personally I doubt he's your man. |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 04:31:54
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by AngelaBoger
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Okay your Sander born in Varteig #4:
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Varteig, Ministerialbok nr. 1 (1861-1877), Fødte og døpte 1875, side 58.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5776&idx_id=5776&uid=ny&idx_side=-62
Any way to find out if that Sander Sandersen travelled or any other information?
Well he must have moved to Skeberg since he's there in the census but I didn't see him in the parish register of Varteig moving out (but I did move through the register very quickly.)
Personally I doubt he's your man.
Ah well that sucks. :( |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 05:20:47
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| I see what you are saying about Martha Johanna Elizabeth's birth record with Sanders scribbled out. Another possibility is that the clerk started writing the last name in the first name column and caught himself. |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 06:23:46
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Probably the baptism record fro Sander E Sandersen.
Sander Emanuel Sandersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Sander Emanuel Sandersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 jan 1873
Baptism Date: 8 jun 1873
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Carl Emil Sandersen
Mother: Henrikke Emilie Hansen
FHL Film Number: 1259718
I did not find him in a quick look at the 1900 or 1910 Census. |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/11/2015 06:27:48 |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 13:19:36
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Olaf Johannes Sandersen b. 16 Feb 1870 #5390 did go AWOL in 1889 and he had been to England prior to that, not sure I see South Africa as any destination, though:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo mønstringskontor, Yngre ruller, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 3 (SAO/A-10569g/F/Fc/Fca/L0003), 1887-1902, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle, patent nr. 5198-7595.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/db/42069/42/
Olaf Johannes Sanderson's confirmation #54:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Grønland, Ministerialbok nr. 8 (1881-1893), Konfirmerte 1884, side 78.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6232&idx_id=6232&uid=ny&idx_side=-70
Could someone on forum please look at the location where Olaf went rømt. Is that Durban? |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 16:21:28
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Olaf Johannes Sandersen b. 16 Feb 1870 #5390 did go AWOL in 1889 and he had been to England prior to that, not sure I see South Africa as any destination, though:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo mønstringskontor, Yngre ruller, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 3 (SAO/A-10569g/F/Fc/Fca/L0003), 1887-1902, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle, patent nr. 5198-7595.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/db/42069/42/
Olaf Johannes Sanderson's confirmation #54:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Grønland, Ministerialbok nr. 8 (1881-1893), Konfirmerte 1884, side 78.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6232&idx_id=6232&uid=ny&idx_side=-70
Could someone on forum please look at the location where Olaf went rømt. Is that Durban?
I'm not sure exactly what it says there, but underneath England says "ditto", so it was somewhere in England, if I'm reading that correctly. |
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Herman Sandersen South Africa
