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kathyolson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 14/02/2016 : 20:02:25
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looking for parish near farm possible record of gg grandfathers birth/baptismal record May 16, 1816 Anders Andrew Gudmonsrude Olsen/immigrated approx. 1868-1870 to Chicago-MN-ND
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/02/2016 : 20:17:12
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There are quite a few Gudmundsrud farms in Norway. I'll check out the migrant records on the one from Aal Hallingdal. What is your source for the farm name? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/02/2016 : 23:25:53
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There are three Gudmundsrud farms that pop up in the FINN kart map. One is the one mentioned by Jackie for Aal, Hallingdal. The other is in Søndre Land, Oppland and the third in Notodden, Telemark. Here is a link to the map program. Enter Gudmundsrud in the box and click Søk.
http://kart.finn.no/
Aso some information from the Ål bygdebok on the Gudmundsrud farm.
http://www.aal-bygdebok.no/110002-.htm |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/02/2016 00:16:15 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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kathyolson
Junior member
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2016 : 01:47:12
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Hopkins your awesome /I just need to translate the rest to know parents name etc jkmarler your awesome to check Hallingdal awesome to lyndal40/just trying to fiqure out the kart |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2016 : 01:52:18
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Well, found no Anders Olson born on that date in Aal. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2016 : 02:36:27
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I've found that the translations of the form column headings is vital to starting to understand the Norwegian parish records. Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this website - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2016 : 09:41:27
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quote: I just need to translate the rest to know parents name etc
Anders Olsen was baptized in Hoff church on June 3. Anders parents were Ole Johansen and Dorte Hansdatter at Gudmundsrud. They were Farmers.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/02/2016 : 09:52:57
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Ole Johansen, Aanerud and Dorte Hansdatter were married Nov 14 1799, see 10th record left page.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/02/2016 : 09:55:49
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Ole Johansen and Dorte Hansdatter were at Aanerud in 1801.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/02/2016 : 10:03:08
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The first child of Ole Johansen and Dorte Hansdatter, Marte was baptized July 26 1800, see last record on left page.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/02/2016 : 10:08:14
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Johannes was the first child born at Gudmundsrud, he was baptized Dec 26 1802, see 12th record on left page. Their daughter Anne was baptized Febr 24 1805, see 10th record on left page. Thier son Hans was baptized April 19 1807, see 3rd reord on left page. Their son Ole was born Febr 5 1810, see 3rd record on right page.
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Edited by - eibache on 15/02/2016 10:20:15 |
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kathyolson
Junior member
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2016 : 18:57:37
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thank you all! I will be in Oslo in June, how far is it from Oslo to Hov? Also is this parish book at the church still or the archives in Oslo?
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kathyolson
Junior member
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2016 : 19:40:29
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It looks like 6 children, the daughters would use Olsdaatter correct? The sons would use Johansen when they boarded ship to America? Family story is the three bothers 1868-1870 traveled to America and fought so much on ship captain threatened to throw them overboard. I do know Anders took Olsen at some point. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2016 : 21:18:33
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Traditionally the children of Ole and Dorte would be either Olsen or Olsdatter depending upon the child's sex. Why would the males identify themselves as Johansens? Perhaps they had been informed of the typical naming patterns used in America and decided to adapt that early based on their father's patronymic name? Or are you meaning that the other brothers later used the name Johansen/Johanson/Johnson in America?
In my own family I didn't see names changing that much until they started to settle into the northern US midwest. At least one of them alternated back and forth between variations (patronymic vs. farm) for almost 12 years. (Spelling adaptations excepted)
Brothers of their ages fought to the point of upsetting the captain? Those brothers would have been between the ages of 54 and 66 onboard - are you sure of that family story? Were any of the brothers married with families who were also emigrating? If so - can you give identifying information about wives and children?
Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm
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kathyolson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 16/02/2016 : 01:48:27
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My same perspective was the brothers were too old to be fighting/must be children of elder brothers read up on naming patterns and see it would be Olsen and not Johansen |
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