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kathyolson
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Posted - 14/02/2016 :  20:02:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looking for parish near farm possible record of gg grandfathers birth/baptismal record May 16, 1816
Anders Andrew Gudmonsrude Olsen/immigrated approx. 1868-1870 to Chicago-MN-ND

jkmarler
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Posted - 14/02/2016 :  20:17:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are quite a few Gudmundsrud farms in Norway. I'll check out the migrant records on the one from Aal Hallingdal. What is your source for the farm name?
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/02/2016 :  23:25:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are three Gudmundsrud farms that pop up in the FINN kart map. One is the one mentioned by Jackie for Aal, Hallingdal. The other is in Søndre Land, Oppland and the third in Notodden, Telemark. Here is a link to the map program. Enter Gudmundsrud in the box and click Søk.

http://kart.finn.no/

Aso some information from the Ål bygdebok on the Gudmundsrud farm.

http://www.aal-bygdebok.no/110002-.htm

Edited by - AntonH on 15/02/2016 00:16:15
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Hopkins
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  00:49:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The parish records for Land, Oppland show an Anders Olsen born 23 May 1816 on a farm called Gudmundsrud.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9358&idx_id=9358&uid=ny&idx_side=-16

Also checked Heddal and Gransherad in Telemark - but none likely in those birth records.
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kathyolson
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  01:47:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hopkins your awesome /I just need to translate the rest to know parents name etc
jkmarler your awesome to check Hallingdal
awesome to lyndal40/just trying to fiqure out the kart
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  01:52:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, found no Anders Olson born on that date in Aal.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  02:36:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've found that the translations of the form column headings is vital to starting to understand the Norwegian parish records.
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this website -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html

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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  09:41:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I just need to translate the rest to know parents name etc

Anders Olsen was baptized in Hoff church on June 3.
Anders parents were Ole Johansen and Dorte Hansdatter at Gudmundsrud. They were Farmers.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  09:52:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Johansen, Aanerud and Dorte Hansdatter were married Nov 14 1799, see 10th record left page.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  09:55:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Johansen and Dorte Hansdatter were at Aanerud in 1801.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  10:03:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The first child of Ole Johansen and Dorte Hansdatter, Marte was baptized July 26 1800, see last record on left page.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  10:08:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johannes was the first child born at Gudmundsrud, he was baptized Dec 26 1802, see 12th record on left page.
Their daughter Anne was baptized Febr 24 1805, see 10th record on left page.
Thier son Hans was baptized April 19 1807, see 3rd reord on left page.
Their son Ole was born Febr 5 1810, see 3rd record on right page.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 15/02/2016 10:20:15
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kathyolson
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  18:57:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you all! I will be in Oslo in June, how far is it from Oslo to Hov? Also is this parish book at the church still or the archives in Oslo?
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kathyolson
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  19:40:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like 6 children, the daughters would use Olsdaatter correct? The sons would use Johansen when they boarded ship to America? Family story is the three bothers 1868-1870 traveled to America and fought so much on ship captain threatened to throw them overboard. I do know Anders took Olsen at some point.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  21:18:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Traditionally the children of Ole and Dorte would be either Olsen or Olsdatter depending upon the child's sex. Why would the males identify themselves as Johansens? Perhaps they had been informed of the typical naming patterns used in America and decided to adapt that early based on their father's patronymic name? Or are you meaning that the other brothers later used the name Johansen/Johanson/Johnson in America?

In my own family I didn't see names changing that much until they started to settle into the northern US midwest. At least one of them alternated back and forth between variations (patronymic vs. farm) for almost 12 years. (Spelling adaptations excepted)

Brothers of their ages fought to the point of upsetting the captain? Those brothers would have been between the ages of 54 and 66 onboard - are you sure of that family story?
Were any of the brothers married with families who were also emigrating? If so - can you give identifying information about wives and children?

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns:
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm

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kathyolson
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Posted - 16/02/2016 :  01:48:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My same perspective was the brothers were too old to be fighting/must be children of elder brothers
read up on naming patterns and see it would be Olsen and not Johansen
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