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LindaNiemi
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Posted - 26/05/2016 :  22:36:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trying to find info on Sivert Andreas Olssen, born 4 Dec 1855 in Hitra, Hitterens Parish. He did not follow his family to Trondheim - 1865 cencus. His father was Ole Sivertsen from Borsa, mother Jonetta Jonsdatter - Hitra. Wondering if he married and stayed in Norway? Did he have a family? Thank you to anyone who can help!

Linda Niemi

Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/05/2016 :  23:20:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He lived in Trondheim 1885 as merchant married to Anna Gurine, two children, Godtfred and Alpha, all born in Strinden (Strinda) merged with Trondheim 1964, and a servant maid Maren Anne Olsen b. 1865 in Hitteren, perhaps his sister? link

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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/05/2016 23:28:52
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2016 :  23:20:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The family is still in Hitra for the 1865 census -
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1617&kenr=002&bnr=0011&lnr=000

You say the rest of the family moved to Trondheim -- when?

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LindaNiemi
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Posted - 26/05/2016 :  23:50:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In 1875 the family is in Trondheim, however, Sivert is not with them. I'm wondering if he got married, had children, etc.

Linda Niemi
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  00:01:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You have information that he definitely lived to be an adult? Have you searched Hitra death records ?
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  00:12:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about the Sivert Olsen, 20 yrs old, born Hitra who is also living in Trondheim? You think this isn't the man you are looking for? He would be old enough to be out on his own.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=1601&kenr=017&bnr=0060&lnr=00

What records have you already checked?

The 1900 Norwegian census??
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f01601&gardpostnr=4374&sokefelt=skjul



Edited by - Hopkins on 27/05/2016 00:32:36
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LindaNiemi
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  00:32:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for your prompt responses! I now know that Sivert indeed lived to marry and have two children! Any information beyond this would be welcome, death records, additional census records, etc.. Would anyone be able to resource his sons information? They have quite the interesting names: Godtfred Antonious Sybrian Ambrosius Olsen, born in Strinda in 1881, and Alpha Othelie Imaline Omega Olsen, born in 1878. Wow! (Thank you to Kaarto for supplying this info.)

Linda Niemi
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  00:36:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have a private way to gain more info - I'll leave you to that.

The same records available to us are available to you. Online - free.
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LindaNiemi
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  00:50:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only information I have received is through kind people as yourself. I am not aware of the free access such as you have supplied that is available - I have only used Family Search and have not been very successful. I appreciate all the help I have been given. I have learned much today. Thank you for your time!

Linda Niemi
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  01:09:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry. Kåarto's response did not show up on my computer screen when I wrote that.

There are HUGE amounts of data available online.

There are a number of excellent materials available online for your study and the number of Norwegian resources available online for research increases almost daily. Study, practice, enjoy!

Ancestors From Norway articles (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html) The articles by John Follesdal were written before so much information was available online but they are still the best I can recommend for learning about the basics of using Norwegian historical resources.
Portal to Norway research guidance of LDS Family History Library (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Norway)
Norwegian censuses on NHDC website, instructions included (http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)
FamilySearch has a huge and ever growing number of Norwegian births and marriages indexed (http://www.familysearch.org)

Help for translating many of your finds (https://otjoerge.wordpress.com/norwegian-american-dictionary/ae-o-a-0-9/#0) and (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na17.html)
Norwegian census abbreviations (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/census_abbreviations.html)
Making the Norwegian alphabet characters (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/Characters.html)

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm)
(http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm)

Norwegian nationwide censuses of 1910, 1900,1875 (only partially online), 1865 and 1801 are online as searchable databases. Two websites with different search functions and strengths can be used. Be sure and read the hints and instructions for using each website that are included on each.
(http://www.arkivverket.no/eng/Digitalarkivet)
(http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)

The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the digitized parish records effectively you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.

The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://www.arkivverket.no/eng/Digitalarkivet) many many resources are available there and more are added regularly. The page also has links to a number of learning aids to get acquainted with the many various database searches possible. There is an option to convert that homepage to English along the top right of the window.
The scanned images of the parish records are available from the homepage link "Digitised parish records from Norway" [English version].

The Digitalarkivet very recently changed the way we can view the scanned parish records and at this writing they are still working on guides for using their new system in English. I include a link to where such guides might soon be published -
http://arkivverket.no/eng/Digitalarkivet/Help/Scanned-archives

The actual scanned original records will not be translated since they were written in Norway by Norwegians through the years.

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)

For the protection of privacy, there are limits for how recent records can be released. At this writing those are:

- Birth and baptism records up to and including 1929
- Confirmation records up to and including 1934
- Marriage and banns records - no limits
- Civil marriage up to and including 1950
- Death, burial and stillbirth records up to and including 1930
- Migration records - no limits
- Joins and leavings of the State Church up to and including 1950
- Records about dissenters up to and including 1950

If you cross these limits while browsing a register or a list, you will not see the digitised image, but a message informing you that the image cannot be displayed.

Norway has a tradition of publishing history and genealogy books for many rural districts of the country called 'bygdebøker'. You might be lucky enough to have had ancestors from one of the areas which has one or more good 'bygdebøker' published about it.
Learn about 'bygdebøker' (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html)
Bygdebøker and Ættarbøker can be helpful but are definitely secondary sources of information -- any research done in them should be verified in the primary sources such as the parish church records.


Links and more links about Norway and Norwegian genealogy (http://www.cyndislist.com/norway.htm)

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LindaNiemi
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  01:44:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for this treasure trove of resource information. I certainly will try to use them!

Linda Niemi
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  15:17:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When the daughter Alfa Otilie Imaline Omega was born, Nov 3 1878, Sivert Andreas was "Bryggebetjent". See #73.

Sivert Andreas and Anna Gurine were married May 4 1878, see #5.

When Gotfred Antonius Sybrian Ambrosius was born, May 20 1881, Sivert Andreas was "Handelsmand". See #48.

The family was living at Hvilehougen.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 27/05/2016 15:31:07
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LindaNiemi
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  17:19:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Einar, for this wonderful information! I didn't know about Alfa Otilie Imaline Omega Sivertsen - what a name! I wonder what prompted Sivert and Anna to name their children with such embellishment! :) Would you be able to resource church marriage records of the children? Are there possibly more children? Did any immigrate to the USA? So many questions! Thank you for your time and resource!

Linda Niemi
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LindaNiemi
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  20:56:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should correct myself, I didn't know earlier that Alfa (Alpha) was a daughter's name. So, one son, Gotfred, and one daughter Alfa. Now to find out who they married and if they had children - and if they remained in Norway. Any help would be appreciated!

Linda Niemi
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  21:49:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most likely Alfa married to Carl Jacobsen with 4 children in Trondheim 1910

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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/05/2016 21:56:16
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2016 :  22:02:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gotfred Olsen, stoker, married to Katrine in Trondheim 1910

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