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ericmhanson
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 13:07:45
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QUERY FORM for IMAH
Pertinent sources of information:
A biography of Hans N. Hansen and his wife Ingeborg is included in the book, ILLUSTRATED ALBUM of BIOGRAPHIES of POPE AND STEVENS COUNTIES, MINNESOTA (Alden, Ogle, and Company, Chicago, 1888.) The biography is on p.304. The biography of their son Johan on page 239 includes a paragraph about them. The book is in the public domain. It has been digitized is available for review online.
Possible record of baptism Possible record of the marriage of her parents Record of marriage Record of baptism of each of eight children Census of 1865 Passenger list documenting departure.
INGEBORG MARIE ANDERSDOTTER
Person: INGEBORG MARIE ANDERSDR Name variations: Ingeburg Mary Linset (Hans’ biography) Engabor Anderson (Johan’s biography) Last name Hansen or Hanson in America. Note: I take Andersdr to be Andersdotter or Andersdatter. 2. Birthdate: 1826 (source: 1865 census)
It is possible that this is her baptismal record: Name: Ingeborg Marie Andersen Birth date: 5 Nov 1826 Baptism date: 12 Dec 1826 Baptism place: Skoger, Vestfold, Norway Father: Anders Gulbrandsen Mother: Anne Knudsdr (source: GS film number 127642, Batch number C423878-2)
3. Birthplace: Hof, Vestfold (source: 1865 census)
4. Parents: Father: ?Anders Gulbrandsen Mother: ?Anne Knudsdr
Note: It is possible that this is the marriage record of the father and mother. Name: Anders Gulbrandsen Spouse: Anne Knudsdr Marriage date: 31 Aug 1824 Marriage place: Eiker, Buskerud, Norway (source: FHL film # 124107)
5. Siblings: Unknown
6. Spouse: Hans N. Hansen (source GS film # 278230, Batch M42348-3)
Wedding date: September 22, 1849 Date variation: September 20, 1849 (Hans’ biography)
Wedding site: Hof, Vestfold, Norway
7. Children: The source of most of this information is the baptismal record. In the baptismal records for each of the eight children the father is listed as Hans Hansen or Hans N. Hansen. The mother is listed as Ingeborg Marie Andersdr.
NIELS AUGUST (Baptismal record, FHL film number 123985) Birth date: 1 Mar 1850 Baptism date: 4 May 1850 Baptism place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway Name variation: Nels, Nils Note: Niels emigrated to America in 1870 at the age of 20. He departed from Drammen on 5 May 1870 on the clipper ship Flora. (source Norway Heritage web site passenger lists) He arrived in Quebec.
JOHAN EDVARD (Baptismal record, FHL film number 123985) Birth date: 1 May 1852 Baptism date: 3 Jul 1852 Baptism place: Kongsberg, Norway Note: Johan emigrated to America in 1871. Johan is my great-grandfather. His son Herman is my grandfather.
ANDREAS HAGBART (Baptismal record, FHL film number 123985) Birth date: 14 Oct 1854 Baptism date: 25 Dec 1854 Baptism place: Kongsberg, Norway Name variation: Hagebart on the baptismal record. Hagbart in all other documents. Note: The 1865 census does not include this child as part of the family. It does include another male child born earlier in the year in 1865 and identified as Andreas Hagbart. This child is identified as “Hagbart” in the departure passenger list. In the Album biography of Hans and Ingeborg, the list of their children is an accurate chronological list of the eight children for whom there are baptismal records. The list includes includes two children named Andreas as child number three and child number seven. The biography then lists the children who have died (this was approximately 1887). The list is Nels, Andreas, and Helene. It appears that the first Andreas was born in1854 and died in childhood some time before 1865. A second male child was born in 1865 and was given the same name.
MIKAEL WALERIUS (Baptismal record, FHL film number 123985) Birth date: 29 Jan1857 Baptism date: 5 Apr1857 Baptism place: Kongsberg, Norway Name variation: Mikkel, Valerius
HELENE EMILIE (Baptismal record, FHL film number 127570) Birth date: 22 Oct 1859 Baptism date: 26 Dec 1959 Baptism place: Hof, Vestfold, Norway Name variation: Identified as Emilie in some records. Note: The family apparently moved from Kongsberg to Vestfold at some time between April, 1857 and October, 1859.
ANNE KIRSTINE (Baptismal record, FHL film number 127570) Birth date: 12 Jul 1862 Baptism date: 19 Oct 1862 Baptism place: Hof, Vestfold, Norway Name variation: Identified as Anna in some records.
ANDREAS HAGEBART (Baptismal record, FHL film number 127570, Batch # C42348-2) Birth date: 19 Apr 1865 Baptism date: 4 Jun 1865 Baptism place: Hof, Vestfold, Norway Note: This child has essentially the same name as child number three. Please see the note for child number three. Name variation: Hagbart (no “e”) in all other records.
HERMAN JULIUS (Baptismal record, FHL film number 278218) Birth date: not recorded Baptism date: 24 May 1868 Baptism place: Stromso section of Drammen, Buskerud, Norway Baptism place: Stromso section of Drammen, Buskerud, Norway Note: The family apparently moved from Vestfold to the Stromso section of Drammen some time between June, 1865 and May, 1868. The history in the biography of four years as a merchant is consistent with 1867 or early 1868.
8. Farm/Gard: not known
9. Work history: (source is the Album biography) Ingeborg apparently did not work outside the home. The work history is for Hans.
CLERK in a dry goods store. Approximately1843-46. CARPENTER. Approximately 1847-58. Location was Kongsberg. FOREMAN in an iron foundry. Approximately 1858-1868. I assume that the iron foundry is the Eidsfoss Iron Works. In the 1865 census the family is listed as living in the foremen’s housing, which I assume was in Eidsfoss. SUPERVISOR of a tract of timber also during this time. MERCHANT. Approximately 1868-1872. Location was the borough of Stromso of the city of Drammen.
10. Specific locations that the person lived: Hof in Vestfold county, perhaps Skoger in Vestfold county, Kongsberg in Buskerud county, Eidsfoss in Vestfold county, and Stromso a borough of the city of Drammen in Buskerud county.
11 Emigration date: 1 May 1872. Ingeborg emigrated with her husband and the five remaining children. Of their eight children, the first Andreas was deceased and Niels and Johan had previously emigrated to America. Ingeborg and Hans and the rest of the family departed from Oslo, traveled on the ship Ragnhild, and arrived in Quebec.
12. Emigrated to: Pope county, Minnesota. Ingeborg and Hans lived there for the rest of their lives.#8232; 13. Everything else I know about the individual: The biography states that family lost their mercantile business because of a fire. The fire may have been the impetus for the emigration to America. From the biography: “In 1872 he came to the United States and stopped in Benson, Minnesota, after staying there a few days, he went to Chippewa Falls, Minnesota, and lived with his son, Nels, for one year, when he took a homestead in Pope county, Minnesota, on section 2, Rolling Fork township. There he remained for ten years, when he sold and bought a farm in Barsness township, on section 26, where he remained for four years. He then again sold out and bought a farm on section 14, Rolling Fork township, where he has since remained. Our subject is a representative man of his township. He has held the office of school director, and in political matters he usually affiliates with the democratic party, although to a large extent he is independent in his political views.” Ingeborg died on 13 Apr 1889 and was buried in Pope county in the Rolling Forks cemetery.
Please note that this family is listed twice in the 1865 census. One version is accurate, and the other version has many inaccuracies. #8232; 14. What I want to know: My brother and his family are visiting Norway in August. Any information about sites that they could visit would be of great interest. This includes any immigration-related museums, the location of the places where the family lived and worked, and any burial sites of ancestors who did not emigrate. I am aware that part of the Eidsfoss Iron Works complex still stands and is a museum. I am also interested in knowing whether a detailed genealogical tree has been worked out for this family, and if so, by whom. We are interested in knowing whether there are living relatives in Norway that we could possibly contact and visit.
Also: Identification of Ingeborg’s baptismal record. Information about her parents and family, including siblings. The location of their home or farm. The location of the homes of the family in Kongsberg, Eidsfoss, and Stromso. The location of the mercantile business in Stromso. The circumstances of the fire. The location in Oslo from which they left for America.
Please see also my separate requests for information about her husband Hans N, Hansen and their son Johan E. Hansen.
Thank you.
Eric Hanson
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Hopkins
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 15:09:56
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The marriage record for Ingeborg and Hans lists her father as Anders Olsen. The 1865 census lists her birthplace as Hof, Vestfold.
Her birth/baptismal record - record #10 right hand page https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070402670262
Farm name - What I read in the handwriting as 'Lindset' appears as Lindsæt spelling in 1865 census.
POSSIBLY Ingeborg's widowed mother living with a son (notice Andersen patronym) in 1865 census for Hof - http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0714&kenr=002&bnr=0018&lnr=00
You'd have to see the son's birth/baptism and/or confirmation record in Hof church records to see if the father is also a match.
Such records available online at Digitalarkivet website.
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Edited by - Hopkins on 26/07/2016 15:29:19 |
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 21:30:43
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Lindset farms in Hof, see this map. Zoom and pan to your liking.
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 21:49:01
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Ingeborg Marias siblings: Martin Andersen b. 15 Oct 1818 Maren Andrine Andersdatter b. 24 Nov 1820 Johan Andersen b. 16 Oct 1831 Halvor andersen b. 07 Jul 1834 Elen Karine Andersdatter b.29 Apr 1837 Karen Lovise Andersdatter b. 03 Aug 1840
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 21:52:46
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Widover Anders Olsen, Vestre Lindset in Hof parish and Johanne Pernille Johansdatter, Øvre Skarboe in Hillestad parish were married July 15 1818, see #10.
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ericmhanson
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Posted - 03/08/2016 : 01:58:30
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Thank you for the information, and the effort that you made to find it and share it. It is very satisfying to know the individual persons that make up our family ancestry, and the places from which they and we have come. Thank you again. Eric |
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eibache
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Posted - 03/08/2016 : 13:54:53
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Johanne Pernille Johansdatter, her parents and siblings in 1801. The parents Johann Christiansen from Hillestad and Anne Paulsdatter, Holtung were married Nov 4 1786, see #11.
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Edited by - eibache on 04/08/2016 10:25:31 |
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eibache
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Posted - 03/08/2016 : 14:03:23
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Anders Olsen, his parents and siblings in 1801.
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eibache
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Posted - 04/08/2016 : 10:02:07
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Hof bygdebok covers vestre Linset. Anders Olsen (b.1780, d. 1858) was the owner of vestre Linset from 1801 to 1849. He married his first wife Marte Halvorsdatter (b 1783) from søndre Hegg in 1804. They had 8 children. Anders Olsen and his 2nd wife Johanne Pernille Johansdatter (b. 1797 d. 1884) had 10 children.
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Edited by - eibache on 09/08/2016 14:35:04 |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/08/2016 : 10:16:07
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Anders Olsens parents Ole Andersen (b. 1749 d. 1815) and Ingeborg Tollefsdatter (b. 1745 d. 1802) had 5 children. Ole Andersens parents were Anders Andersen (b. 1718 d. 1777) and Tale Olsdatter (b.1718 d. 1785). Tale Olsdatter was the daughter of Oluf Torsen who was the owner of vestre Linset before Anders Andersen. The families who were owners of the Linset farm goes far back to 1600. The bygdebok which is in Norwegian can be read here.
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Edited by - eibache on 04/08/2016 10:21:38 |
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eibache
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Posted - 05/08/2016 : 10:52:57
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Johann Christiansen from øvre Skaarbu in Hillestad (b. 1755 d. 1811) was the son of Christian Jansen and Maren Olsdatter. Christian Jansen (b. 1725) came to øvre Skaarbu from Lørdal in Hof 1764. More info can be seen here. Christian Jansen was the son of Jan Lorentz Lauritzen, nordre Greåker and Margarethe Jørgensdatter, Munch. He had 9 siblings.
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Edited by - eibache on 12/08/2016 12:39:56 |
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eibache
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Posted - 05/08/2016 : 15:00:52
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Anne Paulsdatter, Holtung was baptized Febr 22 1761, see #22. Her parents were Paul Anderssen and Abelone Pedersdatter who were married Oct 15 1752, see #14. Anne had 7 siblings. Anne Paulsdatters ancestors had been the owners of søndre Holtung since 1650.
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Edited by - eibache on 09/08/2016 13:11:48 |
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