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Mari Sylte Ringstad
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 13:08:35
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I am looking after Berthe Paulsdatter Avlund (Born Helleberg, married 1 Berge, married 2 Avlund). Berthe was my great great grandmother. Berthe was born in 1811, and she emigrated to America from Gausdal, Norway in 1879. Berthe, her husband Ole Avlund born 1812, and their son Christian, born 1852, arrived to New York with the steamship Baltic, June 6th in 1879. (Ancestry.com). In the passangerlist at Baltic , Berthe's name was written Birtha Aflund. After this I am not sure how their life went, except of that Berthe probably died the same year (1879). I have seen names that might look like this family in a book from Mt Morris Holden Lutheran Church in Wautoma, Wisconsin, the last name was then maybe changed from Avlund/Aflund to Olsen, but there might be somebody else with the same names? Two of Berthe and Oles sons; Hans, born 1841, and Torger, born 1850, had emigrated earlier. Dose anybody know something about this family and descendens? I would be so happy to receive some more information! Regards, Mari Sylte Ringstad, Brøttum, Norway |
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Edited by - Mari Sylte Ringstad on 04/11/2016 13:16:31 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 16:35:57
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To start...
Here is a way to search for Norwegians in the 1880 US census in Wisconsin. link
Candidate family in 1880, below. Torger could = Thomas. The father is listed as "Hans Olson." But remember, an American census taker thinks the father of Christian Olson should be Olson. So "Hans Olson" may be just an American style mistake - for Ole Hanson.
1880 Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin Christian Olson 28 Ellen Olson, wife 24 Hans Olson, father 67 Thomas Olson, brother 29 link
EMIGRATION Departing Oslo 23 May 1879 Headed to Berlin, Wisconsin: Berthe Hansen Aflund age 66 Ole Hansen Afund 67 Christian Olsen Aflund 27 link
The town of Berlin, Wisconsin is mostly in Green Lake county, Wisconsin, and a little bit in Waushara county (per Wikipedia)
Find-a-Grave Christ Olson born 04 July 1852 died 02 December 1940 burial: Mount Morris Holden Lutheran Cemetery link
BIRTH Christian Olsen 04 July 1852 Gausdal, Oppland, Norway Parents: Ole Hansen and Berthe Paulsdatter
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Edited by - JaneC on 04/11/2016 17:49:48 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 18:19:55
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In the same cemetery - Mount Morris Holden Lutheran - is Hans Olson born 17 February 1844. link
The son of Ole Hansen and Berthe Paulsdatter - Hans Olsen - was born 19 February 1841, according to this transcription: link
So, it's not conclusive, that this is the same Hans Olsen, and needs more work. |
Edited by - JaneC on 04/11/2016 18:25:08 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 19:01:29
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A lot of similar names, farmnames and location. Are these folks related?
In 1903; Regine Paulsen Stetterud (16) and Kristian Simensen Aflund (21) from Gausdal emigrates to Minnesota. Destination for Regine is uncle T.G. Berge, Kerkhoven, Min. For Kristian it's Friend T.G. Berge, Kerkhoven, Min. Torger G Berge in Kerkhoven, Minnesota.
Regine's parents: Andreas Paulsen & Berte Olsdatter, Stetterud I believe Kristian's parents are Simen Hansen Aflund & Oline Bergitte Iversdr. In 1910, he has returned from Minot, ND to his brother in Gausdal. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 21:04:32
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Here is a Kristian Aflund returning to Minot North Dakota in 1913. He is from Gausdal and lists his nearest relative as Ole Iversen Gausdal.
Kristian Aflund in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Kristian Aflund Arrival Date: 4 Apr 1913 Birth Date: abt 1882 Birth Location: Nrw Birth Location Other: gansdal Age: 31 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian Port of Departure: Christiania Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: United States |
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 21:08:44
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I think you are correct Jan Peter. A tree on Ancestry.com lists both Christian Hansen Avlund born Dec 24, 1881 and Christine Simensdatter Avlund born May 22, 1880 as having parents Simen Hansen Avlund and Oline Bergitte Iversdatter Leikvam.
However I do not see a conneccton between this family and the Berthe Paulsdtr. Avlund (Berthe Olsen) 1811-1879 that the original poster was looking for.
At least in tis tree
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Edited by - AntonH on 04/11/2016 21:52:55 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 21:27:13
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
However I do not see a conneccton between this family and the Berthe Paulsdtr. Avlund (Berthe Olsen) 1811-1879 that the original poster was looking for.
The connection I had in mind were the names Torger, Paulsdatter, Aflund and Berge from Gausdal, in the original post.
My reference shows Paulsen and Aflund, both from Gausdal, going to uncle Torger Berge in Kerkhoven, MN. A lot of similar names, but I see no immediate familyrelation either. But it could be family, and if so; maybe Berthe's family can be found near Kerkhoven or Minot.
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 22:08:24
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I stand corrected Jan Peter, Berte Paulsdatter Helleberg born 1811 Gausdal Norway was married to Torger Guttormsen born 1807 Follebu, Guasdal, Norway. according to a separate tree.
They had a son
Guttorm Torgersen Berge 1829–1887 BIRTH 25 OCT 1829 • Follebu, Oppland, Norway DEATH 29 JAN 1887 • Gausdal, Oppland, Norway
And he had a son
Torger Guttormsen Berge 1856–1917 BIRTH JUN 1856 • Follebu, Oppland, Norway DEATH 14 AUG 1917 • Swift, Minnesota, United States
Who must be the same person as your
Torger Berge in Kerkhoven, MN
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Edited by - AntonH on 04/11/2016 22:09:54 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Mari Sylte Ringstad
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Norway
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 22:46:48
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Thank you - this is all very useful!
Yes, my great great grandmother Berthe Paulsdatter was married 1. to Torger Guttormsen Berge, born in 1807. They got to children, Guttorm, born 1829, and Paul, born 1831. Paul was my great grandfather. Torger died when my great-grandfather Paul Torgersen, was about one year old. Berthe remarried 2 Ole H. Avlund in 1836. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 04/11/2016 : 22:55:55
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Looks like Ole and Simen are brothers: Ole Hansen Aflund born 30 Apr 1812 Simen Hansen Aflund born 22 Mar 1825
Thus; Kristian that emigrated in 1903 is a 1st cousin to Berthe's sons Hans, Torger and Christian. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 16:35:25
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Here is a Hans Olson born Feb 1841 living in Waushara County in 1900. Based on the son Charles Otis it is likely the same person as found by Jane in FAG list.
Hans Olsen in the 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Hans Olsen Age: 59 Birth Date: Feb 1841 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1900: Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1866 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Nancy Olsen Marriage Year: 1871 Years Married: 29 Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Hans Olsen 59 Nancy Olsen 46 Charley O Olsen 25 Maria E Severson 82 |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/11/2016 16:37:34 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 16:42:42
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In 1880 Hans is on the same census page as the family of Christian Olson shown above by Jane.
Hans Olson in the 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Hans Olson Age: 39 Birth Year: abt 1841 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1880: Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Nancy Olson Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Household Members: Name Age Hans Olson 39 Nancy Olson 26 Charles Olson 5 Barnheart Olson 2 |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/11/2016 16:44:25 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 23:19:38
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There is a family tree on Ancestry.com for Hans Olson and Andria (Nancy) perhaps Seversen or Sebjornsen ? Their children married and had many children of their own. Charles had at least six children.
Charles Olson married Anna Marie Bendickson 1881–1970 BIRTH 19 MAR 1881 • Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin, United States DEATH 28 JUL 1970 • Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin, United States
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Edited by - AntonH on 06/11/2016 00:00:06 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 23:35:18
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The likely parents of Andria or Andrea Severson who married Hans Olson.
Christ Severson in the 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Christ Severson Age: 63 Birth Year: abt 1817 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1880: Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Ellen Severson Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Household Members: Name Age Christ Severson 63 Ellen Severson 61
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Mari Sylte Ringstad
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2016 : 08:25:13
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Thank you, Anton! This is very usefull! I am A member of ancestry.com and will be keep looking there today! |
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Edited by - Mari Sylte Ringstad on 06/11/2016 08:26:30 |
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