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Anne Brit Benum
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 Posted - 09/01/2017 : 14:24:13
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...in a place named Verdal in North-Trøndelag - which is north of the big city Trondheim. Her parents were Elling Sevaldson and Ingeborg Larsdaughter. I have initially written that she was born on July 1, 1851, and she was baptized July 27th - I think I have read - in 1851. Her confirmation took place October 6, 1867. She gave life after her own pregnancy to a new daughter called Inga Eline July 15, 1880, and this baby was baptized August 22 the same year. At the same place in this minister-book, the minister has written that Pauline Ellingsdaughter emigrated to USA in 1886 or 1887. It has not been easy for me to find this - so that is why I am asking you to help me.
Best regards,
Anne Benum
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jkmarler
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 09/01/2017 : 20:04:58
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| Now I started to wonder - what is a baptismal attest? I have in fact been wondering what the date in March in 1895 is connected to baptism. And in connection with Pauline's name, the text in the book says that she went to America in 1896 or 1897. That is what I'd like to get an answer to! |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/01/2017 : 20:52:55
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A scenario I could see happening is that Inga Eline is in some other place (such as America) and because she left without getting her documents from the pastor originally, when she turned 15 and was going to go to confirmation she needed the dates and info for wherever she was going to go be confirmed.
Here are an Inga and Pauline combination in the 1900 US census of approximately the right ages who came about 1887:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS35-VF5 Additional research found that these were the not the "correct" people. This Inga's birthdate was 29 Jan 1880 and her mother's maiden name was Gronseth and so for these reasons she was chopped. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 10/01/2017 15:33:06 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/01/2017 : 21:49:30
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Here is the arrival of a Pauline Isaksen into New York in 1887. Ages are blotted out but Inga is listed as child. and Pauline as Mrs. Separated by two ladies Martine Nilsen and Olga ?.
Pauline Isaksen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Pauline Isaksen
Arrival Date: 9 Jul 1887
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: Brevig,Norway
Port of Departure: Christiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Island
On the same ship is
Name: Inga Isaksen
Arrival Date: 9 Jul 1887
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: Brevig,Norway
Port of Departure: Christiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Island
Emigaraton
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000001013135
Based on the emigration record Olga must be Grønseth.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000001013134
Looks like Isak left a year earlier in 1886.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000994582 |
Edited by - AntonH on 09/01/2017 22:45:09 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 09/01/2017 : 22:15:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Anne Brit Benum
Now I started to wonder - what is a baptismal attest?
A baptismal attest is a paper from the Priest, confirming the date of birth for the person in question.
A document that could be needed in the new world, to state who you are. Similar to a passport in our days. It could also be needed in case you re-located to a different parish/municipality in Norway. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 09/01/2017 22:21:00 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/01/2017 : 22:36:52
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Here is a marriage record for Gustav Ellingsen from Eau Claire Wisconsin. Date is Aug 13, 1887.
Elling Sevaldsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Elling Sevaldsen
Spouse: Ingeborg Larsen
Church Name: First Lutheran Church
Church Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
He left in 1883 so could be a destination for Pauline/Inga
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000079956
Gustav Ellingsen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Gustav Ellingsen
Arrival Date: 20 Mar 1883
Birth Date: abt 1856
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Island |
Edited by - AntonH on 10/01/2017 02:43:52 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2017 : 03:20:11
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Here is a Inga Eline Hans so maybe she used her fathers name. She is only 9 years old so she must not be traveling alone. The year is 1889.and the destination is Eau Claire.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000101512
Inga Eline Hansen
in the U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Name: Inga Eline Hansen
Birth Year: abt 1880
Arrival Year: 1889
Arrival Place: Wisconsin
Age: 9
Source Publication Code: 9830.40
Primary Immigrant: Hansen, Inga Eline |
Edited by - AntonH on 10/01/2017 03:23:46 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2017 : 03:29:38
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This looks promising for her death record. Birth date seems correct. Eau Claire is partially in Chippewa County. Must have married at some point in time.
Eline Bremness
in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Eline Bremness
SSN: 389-38-5303
Last Residence:
54727 Cadott, Chippewa, Wisconsin, USA
BORN: 15 Jul 1880
Died: Nov 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (1956) |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2017 : 04:22:15
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Same one, hard to explain the use of Hendricksen.
Inga in 1900 Census married.
Inga E Bremness
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Inga E Bremness
Age: 19
Birth Date: Jul 1880
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Minneapolis Ward 7, Hennepin, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Torger Bremness
Marriage Year: 1899
Years Married: 1
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 1
Mother: How many children: 1
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Torger Bremness 38
Inga E Bremness 19
Baby Bremness 1/12 |
Edited by - AntonH on 10/01/2017 04:23:29 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/01/2017 : 05:13:42
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Man, Anton, I think you got her!
In the ELCA records of confirmations at Eau Claire Wisconsin Inga Eline Henrikson was confirmed on 8 Sept 1895. Her parents are named as Hans Petter Henrikson and pige Pauline E[ ] and she was born at ____rdalen. This is in the same church as Gustav Ellingson was having babies baptized in.
Even though some critical things are not legible in the entry Henrikson is her father's patronymic!
In her obituary it says she is survived by 7 children, 30 grand children and 24 great grand children and 1/2 brother Melvin Henrikson, half sisters Mrs. Morris Hagman, Mrs. George Schaaf, Mrs. Louise Buntz, Mrs. Mildred Franks.
So her father came to US and she went to live with him and his family. Here they are in 1910:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVT-4RK
Here is Hans Petter's marriage in 1885:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR67-922 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 10/01/2017 05:39:30 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/01/2017 : 07:32:32
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#33 bottom half of page
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 723/L0244: Parish register (official) no. 723A13, 1881-1899, p. 379
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060522130579
Pauline's death in 1888 is probably what made it important for Inga to be in a family.....
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 10/01/2017 : 11:09:27
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Thank you very much for the mostly correct answers you have given me. It was even special that you found that Pauline from Verdal in North-Trøndelag died at home in Norway in 1888! I never knew that on beforehand. The only person who is not one of my relatives, is the Brevig-person. This is an absolutely different place in Norway. But it is also fine that you found "my" Pauline's Brother Gustav as an emigrant!
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