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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 02/03/2017 :  18:08:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1801 census : https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058287000177

Marriage record : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660235
5th or 6th down on left
Looking for birth record for Anne (Syrine) as well as any information on first marriage as 1801 indicates her second marriage

This birth record with a twin : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402640161 bottom right
seems a bit doubtful but has been cited on family search because of 1801 census info - birth s/b about 1755
any help is appreciated.

Edited by - davidcarlsen on 02/03/2017 18:14:20

Hopkins
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Posted - 02/03/2017 :  19:01:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you made efforts to consult the bygdeboks? “Hof bygdebok”, 3 volumes by Sigurd H. Unneberg; “Hof Bygdebok”, 3 volumes by Hans Marius Trøseid.

Edited by - Hopkins on 02/03/2017 19:14:49
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jwiborg
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Posted - 02/03/2017 :  19:04:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From Hof bygdebok 1:2, Gårds- og slektshistorie (Sigurd H. Unneberg):
Knut Andersen Søndre Fogstadplassen died in 1808, 56 yo. Married 1793 to Anne Syrine Halvorsdatter.
Children: 1) Anders b 1793 on Fogstad, 2) Jørgen b. 1795, 3) Marte b.1797.

From Hof bygdebok 1:1, Gårds- og slektshistorie (Sigurd H. Unneberg):
Jørgen Johannessen died here (Grefsrud/Østre Lindset) in 1788. Married 1777 to Anne Syrine Halvorsdatter.
5 children: 1) Halvor b. 1777 on Haslestad, 2) Tale b. 1780 on Goverud
After 1790, no people are mentioned living at Grefsrud.

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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 02/03/2017 :  19:09:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you it gives me a possible guide to searching parish records with some dates. Any guidance on a possible birth record for Anne ?
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/03/2017 :  23:01:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably her and family in the 1801 Census. Gives her birth year as 1756.

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/nn-no/ft/person/pf01058287000178
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 02/03/2017 :  23:21:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. I have seen that 1801 record. No success yet finding an Anne or Syrine in the registers. haven't seen access to the bygdeboks referenced above. Any help on that ?
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 03/03/2017 :  19:08:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where can you access the bygdebok ?
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Hopkins
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Posted - 03/03/2017 :  19:51:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The library catalog at FamilySearch.org indicates that the bygdebok for Hof in Vestfold, Norway (by Unneberg) gives a description of the 2 volumes that they have in their Family History Library in Salt Lake City. In addition that online catalog gives a working link to WorldCat and that lists at least 12 libraries that have it in their holdings (most all those listed are in the US). Some of those are probably participating in the Inter-Library Loan program which means your local public library could probably borrow for you.

I don't see any online access for the Hof books from the USA and Salt Lake City has NOT made microfilm copies which can be ordered for use at any of their Family History Centers near to you. That option has been available for some Norwegian books I have had an interest in and proved very useful.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wgnorway/NorLinks1b.htm
https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Norway_Farm_Books

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AntonH
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Posted - 03/03/2017 :  22:06:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
This birth record with a twin : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402640161 bottom right
seems a bit doubtful but has been cited on family search because of 1801 census info - birth s/b about 1755
any help is appreciated.


This birth record seems to be for the year 1865 for Anne and Gunil whose father is Halvor Throsen Bolstad. The 1801 Census indicates that Anne Syrine was born abt 1856. So that seems to be quite a distant between birth years. Am I missing something here?

However this might be the father Halvor Throsen living on S.Bolstad in the 1801 Census. born about 1739.

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01051180000861


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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 03/03/2017 :  22:42:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I'm thinking you mean 1765 and 1756 in your information and I agree with you. I am surprised to find nothing for a birth record for Anne Syrine in the parish registers in and around Hof. in the years around 1756. The 1765 date is not feasible as Anne would have been 12 at the birth of her first child with Jorgen. The 1815 Census record for Halvor seems right....The son Christen was born 1767 so 1815 would be 48 years old. The twin sisters born 1765 to that family include the Anne that has been connected to Knud Andersen as her second marriage in 1793. That would be a feasible timeline for her as a mother of the Knud Andersen marriage family but does not work for the first marriage. I am approaching it as the Anne born a twin to Halvor Thoresen and Live Christensd is NOT the Anne married to Jorgen Johansen and then subsequently to Knud Andersen. I an just so far unable to find an Anne Syrine born around 1756.
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/03/2017 :  23:01:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would agree, here is the baptism record for Halvor first child of Jørgen Johannessen and Anne Syrine Halvorsdatter. The date is Dec 21, 1777 so the birth date of Anne Syrine must be around the 1756 year given in the 1801 Census.

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660177

Anne Syrine and Jørgen Johannessen were married on June 15, 1777 right hand page

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660175

Edited by - AntonH on 04/03/2017 01:55:39
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 03/03/2017 :  23:10:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I am hoping to get Anne connected to the right parents and find out who her real siblings are.
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 07/03/2017 :  06:58:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just putting this out again.....Is there anything in the information in the above records for Anne Syrine that might point to a parish record for her birth? I have looked through Hof and find nothing.
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  05:50:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What are your opinions on this as a record for Anne : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070426610376
Top Left

Edited by - davidcarlsen on 11/03/2017 05:50:49
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  16:53:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe but also maybe that Anne married Anders Hansen in 1780. Here is is the engagement of an Anne Halvorsdattr in 1780 connected to Løche. See Nov 5 left page.

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070426610658

Edited by - AntonH on 11/03/2017 17:46:00
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 13/03/2017 :  03:29:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes I think that your idea on this makes sense as if I read that right one of the witnesses is Peder Halvorsen maybe a brother which fits well with a father named Halvor Pedersen.
I realize this is getting a bit tedious but I have looked at every parish register in Vestfold for the years 1753 through 1758 and there is no Anne Syrine. Everything else seems to indicate there should be one as she has two documented marriages and 9 documented children. It seems unlikely she missed her birth year by 10 years in the 1801 Census record. I note that they call her Syrine in the 1801 census but the birth records mostly call her Ane Syrine and are in the Hof register. I can't understand why a birth record can't be found. Is there anything in the records above that might indicate she was from Buskerud ?
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