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LinHan
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Posted - 04/03/2017 :  12:47:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching for record of Thomas J Sevals´immigration to USA.
From Familysearch.com I find that he immigrated in 1865 from Norway.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLCC-5FZ

His wife to be from Norway as well.

The reason I search for Thomas J Sevals is that I have an ancestor called Peder J. Sevals. He immigrated 1869 from what I can see of Census 1900
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVB-H85

Maybe the two of them were related?

jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 04/03/2017 :  13:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since your real goal is Peder Sevals here is one leaving Norway in 1869:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000399564

And here he is with his family in the 1865 census on farm Sevaltz:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038090001924

Here is Peder's baptism #87 b 17 Apr 1848:
SAKO, Modum kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0007: Parish register (official) no. 7, 1841-1850, p. 118
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20051114020572

Probably the death of your Peder Seval in Wisconsin:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLX8-723

Death record gives birthdate of 17 Apr 1848.

Edited by - jkmarler on 04/03/2017 14:12:23
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 04/03/2017 :  13:56:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Relationship between your Peder Sevals and Thomas might depend on how many Jonas Thomassons there are in Modum in the 1840s. Here is a baptism for a Thomas Jonasson in 1846 in Modum:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHS4-8QH

Interesting, #37 Thomas Jonassen baptism, parents on Sevalseiet:
SAKO, Modum kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0007: Parish register (official) no. 7, 1841-1850, p. 67
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20051114020521

Or depend on how many Jonas Thomasson and Kirstine Pedersdatter there are on Sevals in Modum in the 1840s.

Here is Thomas J Sevals at Findagrave:
https://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sevals&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=61424664&df=all&

#96 in utflyttedes Thomas Jonassen Sevals:
SAKO, Modum kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0010: Parish register (official) no. 10, 1865-1876, p. 404
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20061101370551




Edited by - jkmarler on 04/03/2017 15:22:56
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 04/03/2017 :  14:55:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As jkmarler posted, a Thomas Jonassen was born in Modum 02 January 1845, parents Jonas Thomassen and Kristine Pedersdatter link
Also posted by jkm, same birth, but shown in the original record.link

Same parents names - Jonas Thomassen and Kirstine Pedersdatter - for this Peder born 17 April 1848, also posted by jkmarler link

We can say that so far this Thomas and this Peder seem to be brothers.

n 1869 Peder is headed to LaCrosse, Wisconsin - along the St Croix River on the west boundary of Wisconsin.


Thomas Sevals in 1870 in Wisconsin link

In 1880 census Thomas is in Ceylon, St Croix, Wisconsin
link
(original on Family Search)

Back with a family tree - it leaves out Thomas b 1845. link

Edited by - JaneC on 04/03/2017 16:59:37
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 04/03/2017 :  18:09:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
T.J. Sevals family in McLean county, Dakota Territory in 1885:
Name Age Relation Occupation Nativity Address City ED County
Sevals, T. J. 39 Farmer Norway 60-003-29 McLean
Sevals, Dena 38 Norway 60-003-30 McLean
Sevals, Geo. 17 WI 60-003-31 McLean
Sevals, C. 15 WI 60-003-32 McLean
Sevals, Nettie 13 WI 60-003-33 McLean
Sevals, Alferd 11 WI 60-003-34 McLean
Sevals, Barnet 9 WI 60-003-35 McLean
Sevals, Herby 7 WI 60-003-36 McLean
Sevals, Mary 5 WI 60-003-37 McLean
Sevals, Mable 1 Dakota 60-003-38 McLean

On the glo site here he is Thomas J Sevals homestead in McLean county
View Patent Image TC-0153-154 PatenteeSEVALS, THOMAS J 10/24/1893 43 ND 5th PM 144N - 081W Lot/Trct 1 6 Mclean
144N - 081W Lot/Trct 2 6 Mclean
144N - 081W N½SE¼ 6 Mclean
View Patent Image ND0100__.498 PatenteeSEVALS, THOMAS J 11/14/1890 1559 ND 5th PM 144N - 081W Lot/Trct 3 6 Mclean
144N - 081W Lot/Trct 4 6 Mclean
144N - 081W Lot/Trct 5 6 Mclean
144N - 081W NE¼SW¼ 6 Mclean
--- NDMTAA 042614 PatenteeSEVALS, THOMAS J 10/24/1893 43 ND 5th PM 144N - 081W N½SE¼ 6 Mclean
144N - 081W Lot/Trct 1 6 Mclean
144N - 081W Lot/Trct 2 6 Mclean


In 1900 census in Montana:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM5Z-XVN
In the 1900 census Thomas gives birth date as Jan 1847 and 1865 as migration year.

Edited by - jkmarler on 04/03/2017 18:16:48
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 05/03/2017 :  10:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Obituary for Peter Sevals
Barron County News-Shield (Barron county, Wisconsin, newspaper)
died 1905 Prairie Farm, Wisconsin
widowed; leaves one son James Sevals
link

Fits 1900 census posted by LinHan at the start. Plus James Sevals and wife Andrea are mentioned in an earlier thread of LinHan's: link

The point is that surely the posted death record is correct for LinHan's Peter Sevals. It gives Peter's mother as Gunhild Sevals - not Kirstine Pedersen - but seemingly "Gunhild" is a mistake.
link

Just saying that out loud, because the discrepancy is relevant to identifying Peter's siblings.

LinHan, do you have a copy of Peter's marriage record or naturalization papers?


We could seek Thomas J Sevals marriage record. When his son George married in Montana, parents names were Thomas Sevals and Dena Thoen. In 1900 census Dena is listed born in Norway April 1847, immigrated 1865:
link

This Ole Hansen Thoen emigrating 1865 has a daughter Randine of the right age. link

Geni tree claims the same Ole Hansen Thoen died in St Croix county, Wisconsin. If true, he's in the right place to have acquired a son-in-law Thomas Sevals.
link

Same Geni tree gives Randine Olsdatter Thoen a birth of 30 April 1846 in Modum, Buskerud:
link

Tree creator gives Randine husband as "Clevels" - pretty similar to Sevals.

Haven't found a marriage record for Thomas though.

Hmmm... now I see that when son Barney Thoen got married, his mother's name was listed as Deana Peterson. (Family Search).

More research needed.

Edited by - JaneC on 06/03/2017 13:12:47
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LinHan
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Posted - 06/03/2017 :  10:16:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone. You guys are amazing!!
I dont have naturalization papers on Peder Jonassen Sevals.
Immigration of Peder here:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000399564

AS they are all from Modum, Buskerud is somewhat uplifting.
So it looks like there are many pointers to the fact that Peder and Thomas might have been brothers.

In Census 1865 for Modum, Peder is listed with Jonas as father and "Lena" as mother.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038090001924" target="_blank"> br / https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038090001924

Oh, now I am a bit confused.

Anyone got a better eye on this than I do at the moment?
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 06/03/2017 :  12:53:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Kristine must have died, because 12. oct. 1855 widower Jonas Thomassen Sevaltz is married to Nicoline Andersdatter in Heggen church, Modum.
(Nicoline often was called Line or Lene/Lena)

No 43:
SAKO, Modum kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0008: Ministerialbok nr. 8, 1851-1859, s. 503-504
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051114021078

Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 06/03/2017 12:55:22
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 06/03/2017 :  17:04:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#16 Kirstine Pedersdatr death:
SAKO, Modum kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0008: Ministerialbok nr. 8, 1851-1859, s. 601-602
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051114021125
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 06/03/2017 :  18:51:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Likely the arrival of Peder into America. Looking at the original manifest the last name is probably spelled Sevali. Also the person directly below Peder is probably Jørgen Jensen Snarterud (transcribed as Jorgen Jensen Justernd) who is next to Peder in the Emigratns list. And the person above him is likely Peder Andersen Sønsteby, (transcribed as Peder Anderson Saintely) also next to Peder in the Emigrants list. Everyone on this page of the manifest is listed as being from Sweden so may not have much meaning.

Peder Jonasen Levali
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Peder Jonasen Levali
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1869
Birth Date: abt 1848
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Europa

Edited by - AntonH on 06/03/2017 19:02:55
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 06/03/2017 :  22:34:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Norway was in a union with Sweden from 1814 to 1905 so it is not completely wrong to say they came from Sweden.

Vivi
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