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stef
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Canada
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  03:43:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking for info about John Leonard Olsen (Olsson) (Olson) b. 28 oct 1851 son of Ole Andersen (B.1798) and Guri Andersen from Norway.I have nothing else to trace them ! Tank a lot

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  04:28:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You do not have a lot of information but there are some trees that have some information, some of it contrary to your post.

John Leanord Olson
BIRTH JANUARY 1850 • Norway
DEATH Gaspe, La Côte-de-Gaspé, Quebec, Canada

Marriage
04 Aug 1874 • Gaspé, Québec

Emma Emily Tope
BIRTH 4 JAN 1858 • Little Gaspe, Gaspe Co., Quebec
DEATH 21 MAR 1917 • Y

John Olson
in the 1891 Census of Canada
Name: John Olson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 37
Birth Year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Sweden
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Religion: lutanan
French Canadian: No
Spouse's Name: Emma Olson
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Birth Place: Sweden
Province: Quebec
District Number: 153
District: Gaspé
Subdistrict: Gaspé Village
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Olson 37
Emma Olson 33
Mary C Olson 15
Malinda Olson 10
Charles D Olson 6
Louis F Olson 4
William A Olson 1

The 1901 and 1911 Canadian Census show birth place as Norway.

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2017 04:33:19
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  04:37:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John Olsen
in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968
Name: John Olsen
Spouse: Emma Pope
Event: Mariage (Marriage)
Marriage Year: 1874
Marriage Location: Gaspé, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Church
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stef
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Canada
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  16:40:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tanks ! There is very little info in Canada but i had thoses and they're right ! He married Emma Tope in 1874 and he died in Gaspé Québec Canada but can't find when ! I 'd like to know where he was born ! In Sweden or in Norway !
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  17:25:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stef, how did you come up with John's birth date and parents? Did you take them from a (sourced or unsourced) online family tree? Or did you find them somewhere else?

How about the name "Leonard"?

A candidate I found fits some but not all of your "facts." We need to know how certain those facts are.

Edited by - JaneC on 28/03/2017 17:27:34
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stef
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Canada
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  18:54:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://bakerchild.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bakerchild&view=0&pid=8595&ver=129622
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stef
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Canada
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  19:01:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw the years 1951 in some differents places ! But in the 1911 Gaspé census i saw Jannuary 1850 and he said he was 61 in 1911 so it fit ! And it say Norway for birthplace

Edited by - stef on 28/03/2017 19:02:40
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stef
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Canada
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  19:10:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ìn the 1901 Census of Gaspé it say 28 oct 1850 and 40 years old and it say that he's borned in Norway
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  19:13:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great. According to the tree, Ole Anderson emigrated with his wife and at least two sons, after February 1853 and before December 1862.

Edited by - JaneC on 28/03/2017 19:14:57
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stef
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Canada
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  19:29:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
in the 1881 census it say 27 years old and borned in Sweden ! Not easy to find out the truth
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  21:24:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apparently John L and his brother Henry J married sisters - according to the tree. Do you have census info for Henry J?
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  22:32:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I notice this box from the tree you posted

"Hjalmar Johann Olesson alias Henry John Olson. Norwegian fishing families came to Pointe-St-Pierre in 1854. A report in 1859, stated that 25 Norwegian families, had settled in County Gaspe. The Norwegian settlers began to make their way to Minnesota by 1862"

There is only one Hjalmar Oles* born abt 1853 plus/minus 2 that pops up in the Ancestry.com data base for Norwegian Baptism. Father is not Ole Andressen as the tree indicates.

Hjalmar Olesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Hjalmar Olesen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 7 jul 1853
Baptism Date: 31 jul 1853
Baptism Place: Gamle Aker Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Father: Ole Ellingsen
Mother: Anne Kathrine Jensdr
FHL Film Number: 255734
Reference ID: 2:Q55ZDN

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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  22:45:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reports in Norwegian newspapers tells that Gaspe was first settled by Norwegians in 1861.
The Brig Brødrene under Capt. Koen left Trondheim on May 25 1861, arriving Gaspe July 14.
The Bark Iris under Capt. Gloppestad left Stavanger May 4th 1861, arriving Gaspe - Quebec July 10th.
No ships listed for 1862.

Since Ole Andersson is recorded dead in Gaspe in March 1863, it is likely the family left on one of these two ships.
Thus; I would guess these folks are from Rogaland, Hordaland or Sogn & Fjordane in case they left on the bark Iris, or from Trøndelag in case they went on the brig Brødrene.

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/03/2017 22:55:14
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  23:19:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to the tree, John's wife Emma (and the Tope family) is not Swedish, so the birth place in public records can't be a confusion with her.

Edited by - JaneC on 28/03/2017 23:20:39
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  23:21:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding his brother Henry John Olsson, b. 03 Mar 1853.

Here is one Johan Henrik Olesen born 03 Mar 1854, with father Ole Andersen.
Illegitimate child, see #27.

The churchbook says Ole Andersen is Bachelor and "Gudbrandsdøl", ie. he is from Gudbrandsdalen valley in Oppland.

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/03/2017 23:57:03
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2017 :  23:45:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The tree indicates that he died in Gaspe, Quebec but this record indicates he died in Ontario. The original record shows the wife to be Nancy Tope so I am assuming that this is the same Henry. All of the records I have seen show that the wife uses the name Nancy.

Henry Olsson
in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938, 1943-1944, and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
Name: Henry Olsson
Gender: Male
Age: 84
Birth Date: abt 1853
Birth Place: Sweden
Death Date: 20 May 1937
Death Place: Algoma, Ontario, Canada
Father: Olever Olsson

In the 1881 Census Henry and family are living next to the family of his wife. That would be William Tope and wife Louisa.

1881

And Henry and family

Henry

Edited by - AntonH on 29/03/2017 00:14:18
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