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TWillJohn
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 20/11/2017 : 07:51:48
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According to Norwegian Immigrants to the United States: A Biographical Directory 1825-1850 Volume 3 1847-1848 by Gerhard B. Naeseth page 148, Knud, wife and daughter came to New York on the Alert arriving 8 July 1848, 113 passengers from Kragerø. Ship captained by Captain Krog. There was no further information about the family in US after their arrival.
More information about Alert on this site:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=alert
Other people identified as coming from Tinn on the Alert settled in:
Kittil Nielsen Luraas--Springdale Township, Dane county, Wisconsin
Jacob Knutsen Steinbole--Racine county, Wisconsin, 1852 to Iowa
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/11/2017 : 23:47:01
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They are recorded leaving Tinn Mai 7. See right down page #2-3-4
Emigrant ships 1848 link
Possible ships; Albertine, Alert, Amerika (less likely) Drafna, Erik Børresen, Fremad, Freya, Lolland and Porsgrund (My guess)
Kåre
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/11/2017 : 23:55:36
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Rollag is located to Mæl sub parish in Tinn.
Mæl church from 1829 link
They married April 5. 1831, perhaps some of their first born children died young. Gunnhild was born ca 1838.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 21/11/2017 00:02:17 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/11/2017 : 12:55:21
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Knud was bapticed 2. day of Xmas in 1806, see last record
He was confirmated in 1822, see #3
His parents were Nils Pedersen and Gunild Knudsdatter, Rollag.
They were married March 16 1799, see right page 2. record
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/11/2017 : 13:35:43
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Margit was bapticed June 11 1809, see next to last record
She was confirmated 1825, see #6
Her parents were Østen Olsen and Susanne Østensdatter, Rollag.
They were married June 18 1797, see #17
Østen died July 9 1855, see #17.
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eibache
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Posted - 21/11/2017 : 20:47:50
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Nils Pedersen is most likely the one bapticed Sept 25 1774, see #52.
His parents were Peder Østensen and Ingebor Nilsdatter, Boer.
They were married June 26 1768, see #9.
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/11/2017 : 23:11:42
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So Gunhild Knitsdatter and her husband Ole Olson were living in Dane County, Wisconsin in 1856 for the baptism of their first daughter, called Gina in the 1860 Census.
Guidlarie Olsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945
Name: Guidlarie Olsen
[Gina Marie Olsen]
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 13 Aug 1856
Baptism Date: 19 Oct 1856
Baptism Place: Dane, Wisconsin, USA
Father: Ole Olsen
Mother: Gunhild Knudsdatter
Church Name: Perry Norwegian Lutheran Church
Church Location: Dane County, Wisconsin
Witnesses are Jens Olsen, ? Thomasson, Elsie Olsdatter, Aslaug ?
Baptism of second child
Mary Ann Olsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945Name: Mary Ann Olsen
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1 Mar 1858
Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1858
Baptism Place: Dane, Wisconsin, USA
Father: Ole Olsen
Mother: Gunild Kundsdr
Church Name: Perry Norwegian Lutheran Church
Church Location: Dane County, Wisconsin
Witnesses are Aslaug Gjermondsdatter, Gjermund Thommasson, Lesabeth Germondsdatter ?, Germons Gjermons ?? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/11/2017 : 00:05:08
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Interesting, Gunhild kept the Norwegian Knudsdatter (Knuds daughter) name in USA.
She probably had many questions about her last name.
Did or when did she change to Olsen?
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Edited by - Kåarto on 22/11/2017 00:06:38 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/11/2017 : 00:27:19
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The ELCA churches in the 1800's were very Norwegian. The church books were written in Norwegian and the names tended to be in the Norwegian fashion. The same person might be listed as Gunnhild Knudsdatter in the ELCA record and an americanized version in say the Census Records
Gunhild Olson
in the 1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Gunhild Olson
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1860: Berry, Dane, Wisconsin
Post Office: Berry
Family Number: 1606
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Olson 34
Gunhild Olson 22
Gina M Olson 4
Anne M Olson 1
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/11/2017 : 00:55:01
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This is likely some of the family making up the witness group for the birth of the two children of Gunnhild.
Aslaug Gjermundtr
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945
Name: Aslaug Gjermundtr
Gender: Female
Spouse: Gjermund Thomassen
Child: Margit Thomassen
Church Name: Perry Norwegian Lutheran Church
Church Location: Dane County, Wisconsin
They are as you would expect from Tinn, Telemark, Norway
Gjermund Thomassen
in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s
Name: Gjermund Thomassen
Age: 22 years
Gender: Male
Birth Date: Ca.1816
Marriage Date: 18 okt 1838 (18 Oct 1838)
Marriage Place: Tinn, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Asloug Gjermundsdr
Spouse's Age: 18 years
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1820 |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/11/2017 01:00:42 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/11/2017 : 02:13:37
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Based on the emigration data, the family of Knud, Margit and Gunnhild should be somewhere in America for the 1850 US Census. Even if both of her parents died before the 1850 Census Gunnhiild would have been alive for the census since we know she had a child Gina in Dane County in 1856. Other records attest to her alive status for 1850 Census as well.
Baptism of Gunhild
1837
#1
Assuming that she is in Dane County for the 1850 Census a possible candidate is a girl named Mary Knute.
1850 US Census
She is living with the family of Halvor Kittelsen and Joran Nilsdatter
from Tinn, Telemark.
Based on the names and the location of the marriage ie Tinn, Telemark, I think that this is the marriage of Halvor and Joran.
Halvor Kettilsen
in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s
Name: Halvor Kettilsen
Age: 25 years
Gender: Male
Birth Date: Ca.1814
Marriage Date: 8 apr 1839
Marriage Place: Tinn, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Joron Nielsdr
Spouse's Age: 23 years
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Date:
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Edited by - AntonH on 23/11/2017 03:11:08 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/11/2017 : 23:58:50
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According to this record Halvor Kittelsen and wife Joran and child Kittel left Tinn in 1841.
Link
Joran is a Nilsdatter and so perhaps directly related to Knud, however the baptism record for Joran does not seem to support that conjecture.
Joran's' parents are Nils Jonsen and Gunhild Kittelsdatter.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 26/11/2017 : 00:18:56
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Halvor Kittelson and wife Joron Nielsdatter are identified in Norwegian Immigrants to the United States: A Biographical Directory Volume 1 1825-1843 page 117 as arriving on the Horner in Boston on 9 Aug 1841.
Joron's parents are Niels Johnson Luraas and Gunnild Kittilsdatter Luraas.
Halvor and Joron had at least 4 more children in US but none are named Mary: Ingeborg b 31 Aug 1841, Niels b 22 Sept 1844, Ingebjør 8 Dec 1846 and Gunhild b 7 Nov 1849.
Sources of information on the family are listed in the book are:
Koshkonong Lutheran parish registers
Flom page 317
Anders Svalestuen
Tinn-soga II; 196
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TWillJohn
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Posted - 16/12/2017 : 03:13:39
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First, I want to thank all of you for your responses, I've been busy tending to business the last few weeks and had not checked back on the thread for some time. I will have to absorb all the references...THANKS
I believe I found the family in the 1850 Federal Census living in Muskego, Waukesha, Wisconsin. Dwelling Number 1330 Family 1351 listed as Kimdt Nelson age 36 with his wife Margaret age 30 and daughter Kennel age 11. Knut’s age is not correct, but the family matched. Spelling of the translator leaves much to be desired
1850 Federal Census for Gunnild Knutsdatter
Gunnild Married in the early 1850’s and the records of child births in the Perry Lutheran church records are correct, The clergy traveled in those days and Berry Township would have been one of the stops. Ole and Gunnild have four other children, all boys with the last one born in 1868. Gunnild, who changed her name to Julia sometime prior to 1870 as she shows up in in the 1870 Census as a widow in Arena, Wisconsin living with the children as her husband Ole Oleson has passed away.
1870 Federal Census for Julia Oleson & Family
I cannot find where Knut or Margit Neilson have gone. I have not been able to locate them in the 1860 or the 1870 Federal Census. I have tracked down a land deed record in 1856 where Knut and Margrit Neilson sell a portion of his land in Berry Township to Ole Oleson, past that they disappear...Maybe by tracing some of the sponsor links from Gunnild's children baptism to see if they might lead to where Knut and Margarit went? Any other ideas?
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peder
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Knut Nielsen Rollag
