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davidcarlsen
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 Posted - 03/12/2017 : 05:56:03
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Child born to Anders ________ and Pernille Iversd bottom entry left page: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660115.
4th entry down on right side appears to possibly be death of that child. Does that seem correct ? Also, is the top entry on the right side related to Anders __________ Pernille Iversd record carrying over from the bottom of left page or is it a separate record ?
I am searching back from this record : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660121 first baptism on right page - Knud,
looking for other children, marriage record for Anders and Pernille and Parents of both if anyone has any links to any of that information. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/12/2017 : 15:24:06
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For some reason I couldn't make your first link work. I started at the other link and paged backward to the number.
Unfortunately Anders' patronymic is lost in the binding of the book and kind of smeary looking so guessing that it starts with an A or H maybe.
Ditto on the name of child being baptized which looks like it starts with a K.
On the right hand page the entry you actually meant is a burial of the child Knud 12 days old of Anders Hansen and Pernille Iversdatter on Brandestuen. It has "brgr" in the margins
On the right hand page the entry I thought you meant starts:
"int Anders Brandestuens qvinde" then starts with the abbreviation for begravet (a burial) and several other names. So Anders' wife is reintroduced to the church after childbirth and the clerk or pastor is very frugal and not wasting any paper at all, immediately starts the burials. The marks in the margin signify the acts in the main body of the writing "intr" "Brgr"
SAKO, Hof kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0002: Parish register (official) no. I 2, 1746-1781, p. 70-71
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660115
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kariellen
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Posted - 03/12/2017 : 16:23:06
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B1755 bottom left hand page. Dom 6 p. Trinitatis bapt. Anders ...søn and Pernille Iversdatter Brantestuen child named K.. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660115
Right hand page same link. Dom 8 p. Trinitatis: 4th entry, brgr (buried) Anders Hansøn and Pernille Iversd. Brantestuen child namely Knud 12 days old.
The introduction of Anders Brantestuen's quinde is further down the page as
jkmarler explained.
And then in 1757 a new Knud bapt. Right hand page, second entry: Aprilis 3rd??
parents Anders Hansen and Pernille Ivers.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660115
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 04/12/2017 : 07:12:49
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| Thank you for the reply. I am assuming then that the Knud 12 days old buried was the child referred to in the earlier entry whose name is obscured in the binding. Any additional help with these parents would be appreciated regarding, again, a search for their parents, a marriage event, etc. |
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kariellen
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 04:52:05
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| Yes, thank you. What I haven't been able to find yet is a source doc that proves any of these entries. I hope someone who can read some of these old registers written in the gothic handwriting will spot something helpful. Regarding the page you referred to, the 14th entry down refers to a number of children. I have found Marthe, Ide, Ingeborg, Hans, Laurs Knud and Iver - so far not Maren in the register kariellen refers to in her post about the new Knud in 1757. If anyone can shed some light on that it would be appreciated.One additional wild card to note - in some entries, the mother is Pernille and in others she is Petronelle. So far the entries are spaced as though they are the same couple in other words there are no instances of less than 9 month spacing - usually 2 to 3 years. |
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kariellen
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 19:23:58
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thank you.
Still looking for any assistance with Anders or Pernille birth records or marriage record in the time frame referred to above.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 23:20:09
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David -
Have you already consulted these published books about the history/genealogy of Hof in Vestfold??
“Hof bygdebok”, 3 volumes by Sigurd H. Unneberg; “Hof Bygdebok”, 3 volumes by Hans Marius Trøseid. |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 07/12/2017 : 01:01:23
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A qualified yes. I looked through these books in the Family History library in Salt Lake City as part of a search for Parents (birth record) of Anne Syrine Halvorsd, wife of Knud Andersen (subject of another post) a search by the way which would surely immortalize the finder as she is quite an enigma - detailed birth records for all her children, first and second marriages (second marriage to Knud) shows up in the 1801 census, etc - just no luck with a birth record with the Syrine middle name. In any event, As Knud was a hussman, there was a brief entry for his death - year of death age marriage to Anne year and birth of 3 children and years but not extensive treatment of his life. The parish record source information for these items has been located. As the books are in Norwegian and lack much detail for a person of Knud's standing, it has limited value especially in searching for females or birth information and if you don't speak Norwegian. I did speak with a Norwegian assistance person at the library which didn't reveal any additional information. A search of the parish registers was recommended. As part of reviewing the information I have for this family - Knud Andersen - I saw a record connecting Knud to a parent couple Anders Henriksen Hilmainen and Pernille Iversd. This parent couple was linked to Knud and 9 other siblings. Problem is that the birth records for all show Anders Hansen as father and Pernille Iversd (or Petronelle Iversd. occasionally) as mother - no Anders Henriksen to be found nor a marriage record where suggested in 1737. Therefore, I have been attempting to get assistance to locate parish register records for Anders Hansen birth, Pernille Iversd birth and their marriage for the reasons outlined above for the time period that these events likely fall into. There are numerous references to Anders Hansen in the IGI as kariellen was kind to point out but none that I have found provide a specific birth date or pointer to parentage. Perhaps it doesn't exist but if, as many of those references suggest, he was born in Hof Vestfold around 1712 then a record should be in the material I have requested assistance translating. I have tried but just am not very good at that tiny handwriting, gothic, non-underlined Norwegian writing. BTW as I was focusing on Anne at the time, I was not looking further in to Knud Andersen parents in looking at the bygdebok. I checked once and it was not online - if it is available online somewhere I would make a run at finding Anders Hansen in it.
This is an edit added - the translation assistance I am seeking is outlined in the Pernille Iversd post by me in the General genealogy section. It is not detailed in this post. |
Edited by - davidcarlsen on 07/12/2017 03:32:22 |
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