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PhilMyhre
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New Zealand
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Posted - 04/09/2018 :  05:32:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So now with a reasonable indication of documents showing vaccination date and documentation for 'leaving a Parish' dated August 1851 in Stavanger, we now seek vessel details for Helge August Olsen Myhre to U.K around this time. I have not been able to see anything so far.

The next appearance we have confirmation of, is his marriage to Emily Brunette in London in July 1859. They had two children, he died in 1864, by this time it seems using the christian name of Albert August Myhre. He appears in the London Gazette 21st February 1862 as Helge August Myhre as having developed an invention of 'improvement in ships logs' with his profession listed as 'watchmaker'.

So the period of leaving Norway could be from September 1851 to I would guess 1853. We have been provided with a record of a Myhre on the SS Courier to Hull 1857 but I feel this is too long from the dates above to very close to his marriage date.

Philip Myhre

Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 04/09/2018 :  16:00:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Phil - The early emigration records for the port city of Stavanger were destroyed by a fire.
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PhilMyhre
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Posted - 05/09/2018 :  03:27:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that information. Can you tell me when the fire was? So I guess I could try to find the arrival in UK, presumably Hull?


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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/09/2018 :  11:57:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are unlikely to find passenger lists, actually police lists of migrating people in Norway because that law didn't go in effect until 1866. Not sure when the fire happened but in the Digitalarkivet the date of the Stavanger records that occasionally show up in searches of the emigration databases there are listed as 1903-1928.

I don't know when UK started keeping arrival records or how comprehensive they are.

US kept lists of landings actually "passenger" lists by at least 1820 in any port which was the first port of call of any voyage of any vessel carrying passengers.

I have seen lists of passengers on certain voyages published in various newspapers in US and Canada, usually if someone, a notable person, came or some other advertising purpose being served maybe even just a slow news day.

So the Myhre name found might be Helge's brother, too, the other one in England mentioned earlier.

It might be a valuable exercise to find the baptisms of the children of Helge's siblings in Norway to see if Helge appears as faddernes (means witness or godparent) in them. If he made an appearance regularly among them and then was in none after 1854, that might be when he left. This might also be true of the other brother, as well.



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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 05/09/2018 :  23:03:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Off the record;
I have seen the name Myhre spelled Myhra.

The name Myhra comes from Jondalen
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PhilMyhre
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New Zealand
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Posted - 07/09/2018 :  01:52:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Kċarto

Off the record;
I have seen the name Myhre spelled Myhra.

The name Myhra comes from Jondalen

Thanks, yes Helge's grandfather Hans Christensen Myhra/Myra and lived at the Myhre Farm- Brumyr in Jondalen mid to late 1700's

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PhilMyhre
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New Zealand
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Posted - 07/09/2018 :  02:01:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

You are unlikely to find passenger lists, actually police lists of migrating people in Norway because that law didn't go in effect until 1866. Not sure when the fire happened but in the Digitalarkivet the date of the Stavanger records that occasionally show up in searches of the emigration databases there are listed as 1903-1928.

I don't know when UK started keeping arrival records or how comprehensive they are.

US kept lists of landings actually "passenger" lists by at least 1820 in any port which was the first port of call of any voyage of any vessel carrying passengers.

I have seen lists of passengers on certain voyages published in various newspapers in US and Canada, usually if someone, a notable person, came or some other advertising purpose being served maybe even just a slow news day.

So the Myhre name found might be Helge's brother, too, the other one in England mentioned earlier.

It might be a valuable exercise to find the baptisms of the children of Helge's siblings in Norway to see if Helge appears as faddernes (means witness or godparent) in them. If he made an appearance regularly among them and then was in none after 1854, that might be when he left. This might also be true of the other brother, as well.

Thank you Jackie. It had not occurred to me - That the Myhre arriving in Hull in 1857 could be the other son that went to England. More detective work. Thanks for the tips.




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