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MarkPeter
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Posted - 01/07/2019 :  07:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So maybe, that’s why Johan changed his surname of Ekerot, back to his grandfathers surname of Palmstrom. Embarrassed by his step-fathers loss of such wealth. Just maybe.

Edited by - MarkPeter on 01/07/2019 14:24:33
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 02/07/2019 :  02:06:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well digging into the Palmstrøm website further, the conjecture that Gunilla married a Avildsson after the death of Jonas is disputed. And this is stated.

That Jonas Palmström's widow remarried with an Arwidsson is wrong. Gunnilla remarried with the corporal # 388 Johan Peter Ekerot, in August 1762, and moved with him to the corporal courtyard Båleröd, in Tanum's parish.

Link

Edited by - AntonH on 02/07/2019 02:09:15
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MarkPeter
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Australia
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Posted - 04/07/2019 :  10:20:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes her grand daughter ( Anna Lovisa’s daughter ) married an Arwidsson, not Gunnilla. Thx

Anna Lovisa gets three daughters in her marriage; mid daughter # 235 Christina Olsdotter married on January 7, 1813 with # 257 Anders Arvidsson (1783-1833).
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MarkPeter
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  12:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can anyone find the parents of the below 2 women?

1: Elizabeth Marie Larsdatter Thomassen
B: 28 Mar 1808 Arendal, Aust-Agder, Norway
D: 25 May 1901 Arendal, Aust-Agder, Norway.
Married a Peter Andreas Palmstrom in 1829.

&

2: Marie Cathrine Staal / Stol
B: abt 1779
D: 1 May 1809 Kristiansand, Vest-Agder, Norway.
Married a Johan Peter Palmstrøm in about 1800 - 1802.

Thx and it would be greatly appreciated. If this is not the appropriate spot to ask, what is the best website to search please. I’ve tried for ages on Ancestry.com and FamilySearch websites.

Edited by - MarkPeter on 07/07/2019 13:01:13
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  15:24:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Birth/baptism record for Elizabeth Marie. Parents listed on record.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070329640513
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MarkPeter
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Australia
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  16:09:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much. Any luck with Marie Cathrine Staal / Stol?
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

Birth/baptism record for Elizabeth Marie. Parents listed on record.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070329640513


Edited by - MarkPeter on 07/07/2019 16:11:18
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  16:42:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You give only an approximate year and no location whatsoever. If you've already searched Ancestry and FamilySearch then I see no point in doing that again. I don't have time to search for that with so little info to start with.
I suggest you do. You could start with the only location mentioned in your posting...
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb/browse
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MarkPeter
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  16:59:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok thx Hopkins. Greatly appreciated.
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/07/2019 :  21:56:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trying to find the parents of Marie Catherine Staal is a bit difficult. Back somewhere in the threads I posted a link to Marie Catherine in the 1801 Census. She was living with her brother Peder Pedersen Staal in Kristiansand at the time.

1801

The brother does leave quite a trail in the parish records for Kristiansand. He married a Marthe Abrahamsdatter in 1803.

Link

They have several children together in Kristiansand, but one in particular caught my eye since one of the witnesses was a Johan Palmstrøm. Also witness was Maria, Johan Palmstrøm's ?

Niels born Feb 7, 1804. Baptized Feb 12. First record right hand page

Link

One of the other witnesses is a Severine Chritisansdatter. Probably Severine Christiansdatter Wiborg. Probably the daughter of f Christen Thomassen Wiborg .

1801




Edited by - AntonH on 10/07/2019 00:04:37
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 10/07/2019 :  01:46:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40




They have several children together in Kristiansand, but one in particular caught my eye since one of the witnesses was a Johan Palmstrøm. Also witness was Maria, Johan Palmstrøm's ?

/pf01058333003797"] 1801 [/url][/b]







An abbreviation Johan Palmstrøm's hustr., hustru / wife.
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MarkPeter
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Australia
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Posted - 10/07/2019 :  06:03:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thx very much guys.
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MarkPeter
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Australia
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Posted - 10/07/2019 :  09:53:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is a males name with the initials Brt and about 5/6 letters long.

Johan Peter Palmstrom - 8 down left hand side and then 2nd column across.

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0004339_00089#?c=&m=&s=&cv=88&xywh=988%2C2661%2C1149%2C1348

Edited by - MarkPeter on 10/07/2019 14:26:59
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 10/07/2019 :  15:44:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know Swedish much, so here are some helps:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Sweden_Occupations

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Sweden_Abbreviations_in_Family_History_Sources

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Sweden_Names,_Personal

It might not even be an abbreviation of the man's first name.
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MarkPeter
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Australia
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Posted - 10/07/2019 :  16:37:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok thx again jkmarler, cheers
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/07/2019 :  17:03:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only two swedish first names that might fit are Brent and Brynte. But Jackie may be more correct and it is a part of the occupation of the Palmstrom father to Johan Peter. A guess for the rest ,the mother is introduced in this document and is named Maja Caisa Loofgren (Löfgren) and she is 24 years old. So maybe born around 1753.


Edited by - AntonH on 10/07/2019 17:38:49
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