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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 20:34:34
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A styrmand Lars Dahl age 21 coming into Trondheim Domkirken in 1827: #61 indflyttedes for sailing SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 601/L0045: Ministerialbok nr. 601A13, 1821-1831, s. 528 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070921620029
says he is coming from Christiansund/ Christiansand
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 20:52:09
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That would have put his birth year about 1806. Maybe this one
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 20:55:14
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Maren Marie's confirmation # 22 also Bakklandet SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0182: Parish register (official) no. 604A03, 1818-1850, p. 83 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918660509
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 21:29:10
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A marriage between 38 year old widow Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter (father is Anders Holm) and Jonas Qvam. # 3 also Bakklandet: SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0182: Parish register (official) no. 604A03, 1818-1850, p. 109 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918660527
I think it says she was born Christiansund or Christiansand. Two different places, one of which the records have burned.
The reference is the groom's birthplace and residence.
Jonas Qvam in 1875 census: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052359022523
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 22:18:30
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Maybe you are on to something
Anders Holm in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Anders Holm Gender: Male Marriage Date: 1 okt 1800 (1 Oct 1800) Marriage Place: Kristiansand, Vest-Agder, Norway Spouse: Torborg Andersdr FHL Film Number: 127314 Reference ID: 2:1LFR0P4
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 23:02:38
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The OP says that: "Daughter Maren Marie Neswold (1854 – 1937) eventually moved to Kristiansand, Norway."
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/06/2019 : 23:13:29
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A Lars was born June 13, 1802 in Trondheim to Ole Simonsen and Malene Olsdatter.
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Ole and Malene in the 1801 Census. He is listed as a soldier
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An Ole Simonsen Dahl had a child in 1809 named Kirsten with Maren Lucia Jonsd. Hammer hans Forlovede in Bratsberg, Strinda
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Unfortunately for this attempted connection he is listed as unmarried when he does marry Maren in 1809. He is listed as Ole Sivertsen in the record.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 00:13:49
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But the marriage record for Anders Holm from Kristiansand does have as a witness Henrich Holm
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 03:06:06
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# 57 Anna Bernharda SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 602/L0137: Parish register (copy) no. 602C05, 1846-1856, p. 127 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070924610460
#96 Maren Marie SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 602/L0138: Parish register (copy) no. 602C06, 1853-1858, p. 37 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070924620038 One of her faddernes is pige Nicoline Christine Dahl
Maren Marie Næsvold death: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000000429404
#212 Jakob Magnus SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 602/L0138: Parish register (copy) no. 602C06, 1853-1858, p. 137 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070924620138
#189 Johannes https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000308287
#97 Nicoline Susanne b 1864 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000311387 Faddernes of interest: wife Ingerb. Anne Qvam, Nic. Jensen, Theodor Jensen
#215 Olga b 1866 (twin to #184) https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000316332 faddernes of interest: Theodor Jensen and wife Nicoline Christine
#184 Ida Marie b 1866 died at 5 minutes baptised at home by midwife C Shau https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000316084 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 03:14:58
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In several of the records for Lars Olsen Dahl one of the witnesses is a Ane Dahl. This might be her with her sister Olava Dahl in the 1865 Census for Trondheim.
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And her baptism
Ane Karine Olesdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Ane Karine Olesdatter Gender: Female Birth Date: 1805 Baptism Date: 27 okt 1805 (27 Oct 1805) Baptism Place: Nidaros, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Ole Halvorsen Dahl Mother: Ane Birgithe Dahl FHL Film Number: 126822 Reference ID: 1770-1819 b6
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And her sister
Martha Olava Olesdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Martha Olava Olesdatter [Martha Olava Dahl] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 27 feb 1803 Baptism Place: Nidaros domkirke, Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Ole Dahl Mother: Anne Birgithe Dahl FHL Film Number: 126822
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 04:39:19
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A possible Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter b about 1799 living in Bakklandet in 1801: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058434009650
Bottom 1/3 of right hand page 17 Aug baptism: SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0181: Parish register (official) no. 604A02, 1798-1817, p. 26-27 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918650015
Confirmation Ingebor Anna Koen (has been spelled several different ways, not sure how it becomes Holm?) right hand page # 5 4 June 1815: SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0181: Parish register (official) no. 604A02, 1798-1817, p. 194-195 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070918650100
SIBLINGS OF INGEBOR ANNA ANDERSDATTER
Name Johan Henrik Koen Birth Date 1811 Age 28 Spouse's Name Hanna Oline Ulstad Spouse's Birth Date 1812 Spouse's Age 27 Event Date 11 Oct 1839 Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Koen Spouse's Father's Name Torsten Ulstad Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW3Z-W3G : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Johan Henrik Koen and Hanna Oline Ulstad, 11 Oct 1839; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Jeppe Jessen Koen Birth Date 1807 Age 27 Spouse's Name Elen Regina Ulstad Spouse's Birth Date 1802 Spouse's Age 32 Event Date 16 Oct 1834 Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Koen Spouse's Father's Name Torsten Ulstad Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSM-8H8 : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Jeppe Jessen Koen and Elen Regina Ulstad, 16 Oct 1834; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Jeppe Jessen Andersen Gender Male Christening Date 14 Aug 1808 Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Lars: Koen Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RK-MB4 : 10 February 2018), Anders Lars: Koen in entry for Jeppe Jessen Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Johan Henrik Koen Birth Date 1812 Age 36 Spouse's Name Christine Andrea Stabell Spouse's Birth Date 1818 Spouse's Age 30 Event Date 16 Jan 1848 Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Koen Spouse's Father's Name Bastian Stabell Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSM-JWZ : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Johan Henrik Koen and Christine Andrea Stabell, 16 Jan 1848; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Johan Henrich Siverts Andersen Gender Male Christening Date 08 Dec 1811 Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Larssen Koen Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RK-MMS : 10 February 2018), Anders Larssen Koen in entry for Johan Henrich Siverts Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Ole Andreas Johnsen Birth Date 1810 Age 34 Spouse's Name Elen Frederikke Koen Spouse's Birth Date 1804 Spouse's Age 40 Event Date 30 Jun 1844 Event Place Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway Father's Name John Herjuan Spouse's Father's Name Anders Koen Citing this Record
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSM-FBS : 10 February 2018), Anders Koen in entry for Ole Andreas Johnsen and Elen Frederikke Koen, 30 Jun 1844; citing Bakklandet, Sor Trondelag, Norway; FHL microfilm 126,776.
Name Lorentz Andreas Andersen Gender Male Christening Date 28 Jan 1798 Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Larssen Koen Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter Citing this Record "Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RV-VYR : 10 February 2018), Anders Larssen Koen in entry for Lorentz Andreas Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Johan Petter Andersen Gender Male Christening Date 15 May 1806 Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Larss: Koen Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RV-GLT : 10 February 2018), Anders Larss: Koen in entry for Johan Petter Andersen, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
Name Martha Hanna Andersdatter Gender Female Christening Date 24 Feb 1793 Christening Place Strinda, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father's Name Anders Larsen Koas Mother's Name Ingebor Pedersdatter Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7RV-631 : 10 February 2018), Martha Hanna Andersdatter, ; citing ; FHL microfilm 126,774.
An obituary published on Anders Koen mentions that he died today 27 Feb 1842 in Troen paa sin Frelser aged 75 years. Anders and Ingeborg Koen born Berg have been married 50 years and 2 months and that they had 10 children and 4 of these allerede forlengst ere henvandrede. 1 March 1842 page 2 col 1 of Throndhjems borgerlig etc etc
An obituary published on Ingeborg Koen born Berg mentions she died on 5 Sept 1848 aged 83 years. It is signed by her children without including any names. Same paper as above dated 7 Sept 1848 page 2, col 2.
An obituary published by Ingeborg Anna Berg born Koen tells that her 18 year old son Pauls died on the sea 28 s.m. (February?) written from Dragøen in Namdalen 10 March 1846; same paper dated 26 Mar 1846 page 1 col 1.
So this might be the end of the Ingeborg Anna Koen if she is married to a Berg.
Here she is in 1875 census: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/rural-residence/bf01052402001333
Unfortunately means this is not your Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter. I'm leaving this all for now but will line out later.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/06/2019 : 04:50:05
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Strinda does pop a lot
Ingebor Anna Andersdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Ingebor Anna Andersdatter [Ingebor Anna Larsen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 17 aug 1800 Baptism Place: Strinda , Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Anders Larsen Mother: Ingebor Pedersdr FHL Film Number: 126777 Reference ID: 1758-1819
Back a bit you found a marriage for Ingeborg Anna Andersdatter married a Lars Baarsen in 1821 in Strinda?. Maybe a mistake in his last name? Her age was 23 so close. |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/06/2019 05:13:02 |
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