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ToreL
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Posted - 07/09/2020 : 19:32:04
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
This is likely the marriage of the parents. Boye is unusual enough that I do not get many hits on the name in Aust-Agder.
Boje Sorensen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Boje Sorensen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 26 feb 1764 Marriage Place: Tromøy, Aust-Agder, Norway Spouse: Anna Jacobsdatter FHL Film Number: 123695
First record under 1764.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070614640308
One important piece of info is missing from the transcription; the record says that the groom Bøje Sørensen is from Arendal, where the candidate born in 1739 was found. I believe that the recotd also says something about where the bride came from, but I can't read it. |
Edited by - ToreL on 07/09/2020 19:34:34 |
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halvelm1
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Posted - 07/09/2020 : 19:36:47
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Lyndal40
Regarding unnamed Boyesen in https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070702630549 I believe I had looked at that entry, but discounted it because it clearly said son, but perhaps since no given name was entered (I am assuming it was not faded) it could be a mistake. However, May 1773 Bapt. means she was 14-1/2 at confirmation not 16? This could be seen as a one year error and possible? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/09/2020 : 19:40:45
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It might be useful to look at a Bygdebok for more information. My great great great grandfather Lars Aanonsen Bråstad was born in Øyestad in 1797. I found some information about him in this Bygdebok.
Title Øyestad Bygdebok Author Kjell J. Bråstad Call Number 948.12 Oe 9 B72 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 07/09/2020 : 19:56:21
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Here is the confirmation entry. To me it looks like Anne Elisabeth was confirmed in 1785, which would make her just 12 years old if the 1773 baptism is the right one. She would also be terribly young at her wedding. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 07/09/2020 : 20:29:35
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Bøje and Anna also had s daughter Anna Elsebeth baptized at Tromøya Nov 5 1769. That matches later records much better.
Familysearch Original (Or the other way around...)
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Edited by - ToreL on 07/09/2020 22:43:24 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/09/2020 : 22:18:34
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Nice find Tore, I think that you have the correct child.
As much for my benefit as anything, here is a list of the children.
Jacob 27 Mar 1766 Tromøy
Sara 17 Sep 1767 Tromøy
Anna Elsebeth 5 Nov 1769 Tromøy
Unknown 7 May 1773 Øyestad
Søren 10 Dec 1775 Øyestad |
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halvelm1
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Posted - 08/09/2020 : 01:18:14
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You guys are doing all the work! Tromoy is a different parish - explains why I couldn't find Anne Elisabeth in Oyestad. Perhaps I can find Erich Christensen in Tromoy. Sara Madsdatter must be correct mother of Anna Jacobsdatter since Anna named a daughter Sara. I had a few pages from the Øyestad Bygdebok, Author Kjell J. Bråstad. I will have to look at them again, but they were poor copies and not the correct farms. Is it possible to view this book on line? What is the Call Number 948.12 Oe 9 B72 used for, regular library loan? It would be nice if someone converted the books to searchable pdfs, seems like there would be a market, but maybe copyrights prohibit.
The 5 Nov 1769 Tromoy parish Anne Elisabeth seems to fit all the facts. Concur with good find Tore. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/09/2020 : 01:48:39
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quote: What is the Call Number 948.12 Oe 9 B72 used for, regular library loan?
This is a reference I grabbed from my Family Tree. I probably used this book at the University of Minnesota, Wilson Library.
I see the book is now filed under "TC Wilson Library General Collection DL596.O92 B74 1981 "
I used the book at the library but it is possible that you can obtain access to it with an interlibrary loan.
The book is probably available online to those with a Norwegian iP address but I do not have that or a VPN with a Norwegian IP address. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 08/09/2020 : 04:26:23
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Øyestad bygdebok is in two volumes. Here is some info on the first volume from a Norwegian library. The two volumes are also available online at the Norwegian National Library www.nb.no for Norwegian IP addresses.
I have access, but from the little search I have done, I have found nothing of direct relevance about these people. It looks like they were cotters or farmhands; some bygdebooks unfortunately have very little to say about these. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/09/2020 : 05:46:29
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quote: Originally posted by ToreL
quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
This is likely the marriage of the parents. Boye is unusual enough that I do not get many hits on the name in Aust-Agder.
Boje Sorensen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Boje Sorensen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 26 feb 1764 Marriage Place: Tromøy, Aust-Agder, Norway Spouse: Anna Jacobsdatter FHL Film Number: 123695
First record under 1764.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070614640308
One important piece of info is missing from the transcription; the record says that the groom Bøje Sørensen is from Arendal, where the candidate born in 1739 was found. I believe that the recotd also says something about where the bride came from, but I can't read it.
That is the first iteration of their engagement, there is likely 3 mentions and there is one on 26 Feb that is a bit more clearly written |
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halvelm1
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Posted - 08/09/2020 : 20:01:27
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ToreL
Thanks for taking a look in the Oyestad books. I am not surprised there is nothing there. Years ago I did find some people referenced in the 3 volume under Skarpnes and the second volume under Natvig for another branch of the family. I ran it thru the translation program and got a crude idea of what was said. Some interesting goings on, fist fights, property acquisition etc. I will have to impose on someone for a better translation at some point. |
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halvelm1
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Posted - 09/09/2020 : 22:35:12
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Boye Sorensen it turns out was the first of 6 siblings also to be found in the 1634-1927 index. I noted Soren was a bodker which has some possible connections with two other events. First that Erich Christiansen and Ane Boiesdatter lived at a place called Bodkerbugten where daughter Ane Sophie was born. This place at Stranda under Asdal (1801 Census #1574), I thought was an abandoned wheelwright shop that housed farm workers and miners, but perhaps it was still in use to the trade. I don't know what Erich did; he died before the census year. The other connection is to a later ancestor Katrine Larsdatter (1859, Oyestad) who married Karl Olaf Knudsen who owned a carriage works in Arendal. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 10/09/2020 : 22:34:47
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Bødkerbugten means "Barrel-maker bay" or "Cooper bay". The name likely comes from the barrel-makers who lived there and produced barrels for the nearby iron ore mine.
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halvelm1
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Posted - 11/09/2020 : 18:39:33
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Tnanks for the clarification. I mixed up bodker, thought it was a wheelwright, not a cooper. I can't trust my memory for these Norwegian words, I should have looked it up. Glad to know about the iron ore mine. I knew about the miners there, but didn't know what kind of mine. Have a lot of miners among my ancestors - Roraas, Kongsberg and then to coastal areas. Is this migration discussed anywhere? |
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halvelm1
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Posted - 11/09/2020 : 18:57:38
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jwiborg - Thanks for nice clear map. Many of the farm names, I note, are still used today on road maps. I assume the iron ore mine was inland. Was it around Braastad? I also, spotted Nedenes on map near Natvigveien, I was confused about that because I knew it was an old term for Aust-Agder. Now I see it was correctly used as a farm name in the church books. |
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