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sabingd
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 00:37:12
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I have a number of posts regarding my grandfather Hans Hawkinson 1837-1926 Born: 20 OCT 1837 • Skedsmo, Akershus,Norway Death: 18 AUG 1926 • Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa, USA
Many of you have helped me in the past but I would like to to consider helping me walk through my paternal line from 1612 to 1837. Back in 15/06/2017, Lindal40 suggest I list my ancestors in order with dates. I as that you will consider taking the time to check this list and let me know if I am on the right track.
9th great-grandfather: Erik Torgersen Birth1612 • Helgager, Gran, Oppland, Norge Death 1665 • Gran, Oppland, Norway Erichsen Spouse; Kari Andersdatter 1616- Father of; Tor Ericksen
8th great-grandfather: Tor Ericksen Birth; 1637 • Hvattum, Brandbu, Oppland, Norway Death; 10 JAN 1699 • Gran, Oppland, Norway Spouse Sigid Staffensdatter 1659-1727 Father of; Erik Torsen
7th great-grandfather: Eric Torsen Birth; 1665 • Ousdal, Biri, Oppland, Norway Death; 1724 • Biri, Oppland, Norway Spouse; Marit Eriksdatter 1677-1709 Father of; Ole Erichsen
6th great-grandfather: Ole Erichsen Birth; 1706 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway Death; 1786 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway Spouce; Sidsel Pedersdatter 1698-1775 Father of; Erich Olson
5th great-grandfather: Erich Olson Birth; 1728 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway Death; 1 MAY 1783 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway Spouse; Anne Jorgensdatter 1730-1794 Father of; Johannes Eriksen
4th great-grandfather: Johannes Eriksen; Birth; 1761 Biri, Opland, Norway Death; APRIL 12, 1809 • Vestfold, Norway Spouce; Mari (or Kari)Larsen 1765-1828 Father of Even Johnsen
3rd great grandfather: Even Johnsen; Birth; 1795 • Gåsøy, Nøtterøy, Vestfold, Norway Death; 1857 • Nøtterøy, Vestfold, Norway Spouce; Anne Hansdatter 1800-1865 Father of; Haagin Evenson
2nd great-grandfather: Haggin Evenson; Birth; 1800 • Baarli Norway Death; 1865 • Norway Spouce; Mean Haagensdatter 1813 Marrage; 07 May 1832 Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway Father of; Hans Haagenson.
1st great-granfather: Hans Haagenson-Hawkenson Birth; 20 OCT 1837 • Skedsmo, Akershus,Norway Death; 18 AUG 1926 • Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa, USA Spouce; Mathia Larsdatter 1860-1924
I would like to thank any and all of you for anything you can do to help me varify this.
Dave |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 16:30:10
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What sources were used to construct this family time line? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 17:01:03
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You've got an impossible thing listed starting at JUST the 3rd great grandfather. A Hans Evensen (Born 1795) and Anne Hansdtr (b. 1800) can NOT be the parents of a child born about 1800 in Skedsmo, Akershus.
You can see the actual family of Even Jonsen in the 1801 Norwegian census , including their young son, Haagen Evensen. http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1801&knr=0231&kenr=001&bnr=0045&lnr=00
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Edited by - Hopkins on 20/12/2020 19:08:29 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:27:35
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quote: A Hans Evensen (Born 1795) and Anne Hansdtr (b. 1800)
Actually it is Even Johnsen that the OP refers too, but the criticism is the same, Even Johansen must have born about 1756 or so and not 1795. Throwing the rest of the line totally out of whack on dates.
In fact Hopkins has provided the right Even Jonsen born about 1756 and his wife Anna Hansdatter born about 1752 in the 1801 Census.
I suspect that the Tree goes off the rails at Even Jonsen and the line above Even Jonsen is incorrect.
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Edited by - AntonH on 20/12/2020 18:37:34 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:39:55
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Here is some information from Ancestry.com that might help put the line back on the rails.
Here is the 1801 Census for Haagen Evenson. Duplicates that Hopkins linked to but maybe help you follow the trail.
Haagen Evensen in the 1801 Norway Census Name: Haagen Evensen Gender: Mannlig (Male) Age: 2 Birth Year: abt 1799 Census year: 1801 City: Skedsmo County: Akershus County Number: 02 Counting District: Braate Counting District Number: 0045 Enumeration District Number: 001 Relation to Head: Deres børn House Number: 02 Household Members Age Relationship Anna Hansdatter 49 Hans Hustru Even Jonsen 45 Mand Anna Evensdatter 15 Deres børn Johannes Evensen 11 Deres børn Ole Evensen 9 Deres børn Marthe Evensdatter 6 Deres børn Haagen Evensen 2 Deres børn |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:42:33
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Here is the same data but focused on Even Jonsen (Even Johnsen in your tree}. Note his birth year is 1756 and his place of birth is the same as his son and is Skedsmo, Akershus.
Even Jonsen in the 1801 Norway Census Name: Even Jonsen Gender: Mannlig (Male) Marital Status: gift (Married) Age: 45 Birth Year: abt 1756 Census year: 1801 City: Skedsmo County: Akershus County Number: 02 Counting District: Braate Counting District Number: 0045 Enumeration District Number: 001 Relation to Head: Mand (Husband) House Number: 02 Household Members Age Relationship Anna Hansdatter 49 Hans Hustru Even Jonsen 45 Mand Anna Evensdatter 15 Deres børn Johannes Evensen 11 Deres børn Ole Evensen 9 Deres børn Marthe Evensdatter 6 Deres børn Haagen Evensen 2 Deres børn |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:51:23
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This might be the baptism record for your father of Even Johnsen but needs some checking.
Name: Even Jonsen Gender: Male Baptism Date: 10 sep 1758 Baptism Place: Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway Father: Jon Hansen FHL Film Number: 123396 Reference ID: 5542 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 19:17:38
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There are no parish records for Gran, Oppland as early as the dates mentioned above between 1612-1699. What is the source of that information? I have ancestors from Gran so that appearing at the top of the posting immediately made me suspicious. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 20:35:46
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Here is the marriage record of Even Jonsen and Anna Hansdatter in 1885.
Even Jonsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Even Jonsen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 13 jul 1785 Marriage Place: Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway Spouse: Anne Hansdr FHL Film Number: 123396 Reference ID: 1980
Nr. 5 is the original record
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061101050124
The farm name for the groom is Braate, same as in the 1801 Census.
About the only path to finding out the ancestors of Even Jonsen is to consult a Bygdebok such as
SKEDSMO BYGDENS HISTORIE
Copies of this book can be found at various mid-west libraries, such as U of Minnesota and u of North Dakota.
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Edited by - AntonH on 20/12/2020 20:43:33 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 20:54:55
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If you modify the entry for your 3rd great-grandfather, you probably have the beginning of your line relatively correct.
3rd great grandfather: Even Johnsen; Birth; about 1756-1758 Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway Death; 1834 Skedsmo, Akershus Norway Spouce; Anne Hansdatter Father of; Haagen Evenson
Anything above that is likely not correct. The parents of Even Johnsen are unknown. |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/12/2020 21:04:52 |
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