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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 : 17:54:45
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
quote: Originally posted by SummerJackson
My Carl Ludvig Anderson was born 14 Feb 1853 according to my records. I have seen him on the 1865 cencus living at farm Engers which I think is connected to farm Rodtvedt.
Any US records that gives i birthdate as 14 Feb 1853?
2 Canadian census reports show Feb 1853 (he came to America, then went to Canada for almost 15 years, then back to America) American census just gives 1853 |
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Edited by - SummerJackson on 27/03/2021 17:55:05 |
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 : 18:03:33
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
Census-1865
Can you tell me if all 16 of the people listed were of the same house? Also what does Accomodation mean in the family position?
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 : 22:51:13
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
A little odd that Ellen Hansdatter has a father named Torkild?
Thron Andersen Steen and Torkild Andersen Steen might be bestmen and/or brothers of the groom.
Yes, those are both brothers, not sure why they were listed as fathers.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2021 : 23:27:06
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quote: Originally posted by SummerJackson
quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
Census-1865
Can you tell me if all 16 of the people listed were of the same house? Also what does Accomodation mean in the family position?
It means to lodge, they rent a room or a flat of the house owner. There are 3 households at this farm, as indicated in 2nd column:
001 Elen M. Hansdatter 01 53 Aker - Husmoder e Gaardbrugerske, Selveier 002 Agathon Andreasen 01 29 Aker - hendes Søn ug Stenbryder 003 Krestian Andreasen 01 27 Aker - hendes Søn ug Stenbryder 004 Anders Andreasen 01 22 Aker - hendes Søn ug hjælper Moderen med Gaardsbruget 005 Karl Andreasen 01 13 Aker - hendes Søn ug - 006 Lovise Andreasdatter 01 31 Aker - hendes Datter ug hjælper Moderen med Husholdningen 007 Karen M. Andreasdatter 01 18 Aker - hendes Datter ug hjælper Moderen med Husholdningen 008 Hans Jakobsen 01 80 Aker - - e har sit Ophold i Huset
009 Nikoline Nadsen 02 36 Kristiania - Logerende ug arb. paa Fyrstikfabr. 010 Karl T. Kreds 02 18 Kristiania - hendes Søn ug arb. paa Fyrstikfabr. 011 Ferdinand Kreds 02 16 Kristiania - hendes Søn ug arb. paa Fyrstikfabr. 012 Valborg M. Johannesen 02 6 Kristiania - hendes Datter ug - 013 Lovise Davidsen 02 28 Kristiania - Logerende ug arb. paa Fyrstikfab. 014 Andreas Holter 02 17 Kristiania - Logerende ug arb. paa Fyrstikfab.
015 Elen Mikkelsdatter 03 74 Hedemarken - Logerende e - 016 Johannes Mikkelsen 03 62 Aker - hendes Broder ug Dagarbeider 017 Julius A. Svedder 03 4 Kristiania - Pleiebarn ug - 018 Karoline A. Andreasdatter 03 31 Kristiania - Konens Broderdatter e Sypige |
Edited by - jwiborg on 28/03/2021 03:10:49 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 01:59:13
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quote: ny US records that gives i birthdate as 14 Feb 1853?
The FAG gives his birth year as Feb 16, 1853. See page one.
This Death Notice gives his parents names. They match this Ancestry.com record and the 1865 Census you posted on page one.
Carl Ludvig Andreasen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Carl Ludvig Andreasen Gender: Male Birth Date: 14 feb 1853 Baptism Date: 8 mai 1853 (8 May 1853) Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway Father: Andreas Andersen Mother: Elen Marie Hansdatter FHL Film Number: 125844 Reference ID: Bk 26 Pg 18
Carl Ludvig Andersen in the Utah, U.S., Death and Military Death Certificates, 1904-1961 Name: Carl Ludvig Andersen Gender: Male Race: White Age: 92 Birth Date: abt 1853 Birth Place: Oslo, Norway Death Date: 11 Sep 1945 Death Place: Salt Lake, Utah, USA Father: Andres Andersen Mother: Ellen M Andersen Spouse: Maren J Christopherson
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 03:01:31
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The 1901 Canadian Census gives Feb 16, 1852 as the birth date.
Carl L Anderson in the 1901 Census of CanadaName: Carl L Anderson Gender: Male Racial or Tribal Origin: Norwagin Nationality: Norwegian Marital status: Married Age: 48 Birth Date: 16 Feb 1852 Birth Place: Norway Relation to Head of House: Head Immigration Year: 1898 Religion: Latter Day Saint Occupation: Farmer Months at School: 75 Can Read: Yes Can Speak English: Yes Province: The Territories District: Alberta District Number: 202 Sub-District: Kimball Sub-District Number: 1 Family Number: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Carl L Anderson 48 Marian Anderson 51 Alfard Anderson 23 Martin Anderson 21 William Anderson 17 Fredrick Anderson 15 Henery Anderson 9
Links to 1911 Census and a Tree included in Famiysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHRN-XDF
The Tree is quite complete and matches our information.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KWJN-M57
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2021 03:05:18 |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 03:42:15
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Probably the marriage of Hans Jacobsen and Anne Christensdatter or Christophersdatter.
Hans Jacobsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Hans Jacobsen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 28 des 1811 (28 Dec 1811) Marriage Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway Spouse: Anne Christophersdatter FHL Film Number: 125840 Reference ID: b 15 p 209 |
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 04:43:55
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
The 1901 Canadian Census gives Feb 16, 1852 as the birth date.
Carl L Anderson in the 1901 Census of CanadaName: Carl L Anderson Gender: Male Racial or Tribal Origin: Norwagin Nationality: Norwegian Marital status: Married Age: 48 Birth Date: 16 Feb 1852 Birth Place: Norway Relation to Head of House: Head Immigration Year: 1898 Religion: Latter Day Saint Occupation: Farmer Months at School: 75 Can Read: Yes Can Speak English: Yes Province: The Territories District: Alberta District Number: 202 Sub-District: Kimball Sub-District Number: 1 Family Number: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Carl L Anderson 48 Marian Anderson 51 Alfard Anderson 23 Martin Anderson 21 William Anderson 17 Fredrick Anderson 15 Henery Anderson 9
Links to 1911 Census and a Tree included in Famiysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHRN-XDF
The Tree is quite complete and matches our information.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KWJN-M57
Yes, it looks like the date is wrong but that is definietly him. Family Search has a lot of info, I am just trying to verify it. I had asked on another genealogy group about Anders Thronson. They said they could not find his birth and did not think Thron Arneson was the correct father. I just want to make sure the information is correct. |
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 04:45:55
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Marriage of Andreas Andersen and Elen Maria Hansdatter in 1834.
Nr. 82 second entry under that number
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061110020162
Thank you very much! Is there any way you can tell me what it says, like occupations and such? I think I can make out Engers Rodtvedt. Is that the farm they were living on? |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 06:36:42
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His occupation reads Kommandersergeant, ie. First Sergeant/Master Sergeant. She is just named Pige, ie. girl. Enger under Bredtvedt is the farm where the bride is coming from. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 28/03/2021 18:52:27 |
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