Karie Nikkelson in the Cuyahoga County, Ohio, U.S., Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973 Name: Karie Nikkelson Marriage Date: 7 Feb 1885 Form Type: Marriage Gender: Female Spouse: Charles Dunning
Most records shows Carries last name as "Nicholson", which likely would be Nikolaisdatter in Norway, while Michaelson would be Mikkelsdatter. So we could be looking for a Karen Sophie Mikkelsdatter...
A search at the Norwegian National Library for "garver mikael thorkildsen" found one mention in this book Vestby bygdebok : gård og grend gjennom tidene. 2 : Garder og Såner sokn Likewise a search for "kaja sofie" found one reference in this book: Vestby bygdebok : gård og grend gjennom tidene. 1 : Vestby sokn likely different person
However, they are only open to Norwegian IP addresses, so if anyone is able to access, would you?
A search at the Norwegian National Library for "garver mikael thorkildsen" found one mention in this book Vestby bygdebok : gård og grend gjennom tidene. 2 : Garder og Såner sokn Likewise a search for "kaja sofie" found one reference in this book: Vestby bygdebok : gård og grend gjennom tidene. 1 : Vestby sokn
However, they are only open to Norwegian IP addresses, so if anyone is able to access, would you?
The reference to "garver mikael thorkildsen" is just a short mention of a real estate sale. However, the book also says on a different page that he is from Christiania, and that he married Marie Andersdatter from Råer on 27/3-41. Caia Tørkelsen in census-1865 is correct, fostered at uncle Svend Andersen. Svend is Marie's brother and inherited the Råer homestead which mikael thorkildsen bought some land of. The book mention the fostered Caia, without mentioning that she is Svend's niece.
"kaja sofie" refers to a Kaja Sofie Sørensdatter, born 1874 on Langli.
A search at the Norwegian National Library for "garver mikael thorkildsen" found one mention in this book Vestby bygdebok : gård og grend gjennom tidene. 2 : Garder og Såner sokn Likewise a search for "kaja sofie" found one reference in this book: Vestby bygdebok : gård og grend gjennom tidene. 1 : Vestby sokn
However, they are only open to Norwegian IP addresses, so if anyone is able to access, would you?
The reference to "garver mikael thorkildsen" is just a short mention of a real estate sale. However, the book also says on a different page that he is from Christiania, and that he married Marie Andersdatter from Råer on 27/3-41. Caia Tørkelsen in census-1865 is correct, fostered at uncle Svend Andersen. Svend is Marie's brother and inherited the Råer homestead which mikael thorkildsen bought some land of. The book mention the fostered Caia, without mentioning that she is Svend's niece.
"kaja sofie" refers to a Kaja Sofie Sørensdatter, born 1874 on Langli.
Okay. Many thanks for the look and effort. I may have to uncross out the garver Mikael Thorkildsen stuff in the prior post because the references might also be of the same man.
Unfortunately, I haven't found any travel for Kaja Sofie, so she hasn't sprouted legs....
It means he has returned his "citizen letter" to the Authorities. The letter was a document for people who wanted to conduct trade or crafts. Citizens' letters were to be returned when the citizenship was terminated. Most, however, retained their citizenship for life, and the family usually did not return the letter.
It must be mentioned that we have not concluded on anything yet... Kaia Sofie Mikaelsdatter is a candidate, but so far no records of emigration or anything like that. Pros: D.o.b. matches, Sofie as middle name Cons: Kaia instead of Kari or Karen, location "a bit off" Christiania/Oslo, lastname = Mikaelsdatter instead of Nikolaisdatter, no emigration record.
It must be mentioned that we have not concluded on anything yet... Kaia Sofie Mikaelsdatter is a candidate, but so far no records of emigration or anything like that. Pros: D.o.b. matches, Sofie as middle name Cons: Kaia instead of Kari or Karen, location "a bit off" Christiania/Oslo, lastname = Mikaelsdatter instead of Nikolaisdatter, no emigration record.
I completely understand and only wanted to thank everyone for their incredible contributions ... so far.
I am following your replies every hour and am amazed every time I look at the efforts your group is willing to provide to a complete stranger who has never done anything to help you in return.
It must be mentioned that we have not concluded on anything yet... Kaia Sofie Mikaelsdatter is a candidate, but so far no records of emigration or anything like that. Pros: D.o.b. matches, Sofie as middle name Cons: Kaia instead of Kari or Karen, location "a bit off" Christiania/Oslo, lastname = Mikaelsdatter instead of Nikolaisdatter, no emigration record.
I completely understand and only wanted to thank everyone for their incredible contributions ... so far.
I am following your replies every hour and am amazed every time I look at the efforts your group is willing to provide to a complete stranger who has never done anything to help you in return.
However, there is no picture of her headstone, which is the usual customary source for the information in FAG. So unless its on the stone someone (vjk, maybe?) got it from someplace else, perhaps her death certificate.
Her husband is the informant for the death certificate but he didn't know the names of her parents. This is always hard to be informant on these documents. Maybe you actually do know but because of the fraught emotion associated with a particular person's death, can't remember or access the information.
By the time of her obituary publication, someone remembered Nichalson as her maiden name and included it. What was the source for that? If it was a hand-written document, confusing an N and an M could easily happen, depending the handwriting and pen style.
So these are the "arts" of family history research.
And it should be noted that the brothers and sisters noted above found in familysearch Norway baptisms database were baptized, if not born in Oslo (Kristiania).
In the 1880 census of Cleveland Ohio there are 37 people born in Norway living there.
Charles is also an immigrant, in 1910 census his year of arrival is 1881.
I'm wondering what made her go to Cleveland? Only 41 Norwegians in Cuyahoga, Ohio in Census-1880:
Emma Norberg 1848 Ole Norberg 1835 Julia Taylor 1853 Oliff Thompson 1838 Orisson Waggeneld 1843 Fanna Waggeneld 1877 Christianna Waggeneld 1843 Charles Larns 1858 Edward Goldsdatter 1875 Bridget Goldsdatter 1846 Oly Christiean 1831 George Jacobson 1842 Edward Jackson 1850 Bertha Simonson 1846 Andrew Simonson 1848 Nelson Wels 1853 Otto West 1830 Julia R Combes 1852 Charles Sampson 1846 Louisa Sampson 1847 Karl Arrickinson 1855 Oliver Paterson 1835 Amelia Gensen 1826 Julius Gensen 1826 Jennie Bailey 1856 Paul E Petterson 1879 Jane Petterson 1852 Ovedi Petterson 1877 Inga M Petterson 1869 William Wilson 1837 Seymour Hunts 1840 Chas Anderson 1844 Edwin Anderson 1850 Andrew Heed 1832 Isabella Shumire 1853 John Burk 1853 Anna Burkhardt 1842 Harold Larsen 1850 Magnnus Larsen 1855 Albert Honson 1850 Jake Henson 1857