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mlskillin
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 Posted - 23/05/2021 : 23:29:06
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Hello,
I'm hoping that someone can give me some leads about my ggrandfather Thomas Johnson born in Oslo in 1853. He emigrated to Ireland (Queenstown, now Cobh) and married Catherine Sullivan of Cobh in 1870. On the marriage certificate he lists his father as John Johnson, farmer.
Any information that you can offer would be appreciated. Thank you.
Mary Lou Skillin |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 01:15:52
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What was Thomas usual occupation?
That death record lists him as American - so did he complete US naturalization? Have you searched for those records? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 01:40:18
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The US 1920 census puts the couple in Chicago, they list that they came to the US in 1875 and he was naturalized in 1880. (Sometimes years get a little 'fuzzy' after that many years and mistakes can happen.) Unfortunately that census does not list an occupation for Thomas.
Names and vital dates of any children might help find the family in earlier censuses... |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 01:52:25
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Ancestry has over 10 family trees showing Thomas and Caroline with quite different information and Thomas dying in New Jersey in 1917. Caroline never immigrating to the US at all.
Which is the correct person to be investigating? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 02:17:04
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 02:20:19
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 05:18:08
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quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins
Ancestry has over 10 family trees showing Thomas and Caroline with quite different information and Thomas dying in New Jersey in 1917. Caroline never immigrating to the US at all.
Which is the correct person to be investigating?
The McCauley family tree comes up and has the birthdate of 5 Sept 1853 in Oslo and that he died 10 Dec 1917 in Port Reading, New Jersey, but is exceedingly shy of documentation. I guess some of the OPs information is a little suspicious to me as well. If he was born in 1853 and he married in 1870 that means he was only 17 when he married, though possible, he seems a trifle "wet behind the ears" for that. And within the family tree the first child comes in 1876 and they have for the first several years, a baby every year--what was happening from 1870 to 1876?
Here is a family tree for this family at familysearch with some documentation:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/9D1Y-J5C |
Edited by - jkmarler on 24/05/2021 05:46:55 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 16:13:07
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Following the family tree from Jackie, here are two of the children. Both lived in New York.
Catherine Johnson
in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: Catherine Johnson
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 May 1877
Birth Place: Cork Co., Ireland
Father:
Thomas Johnson
Mother:
Catherine Sullivan Johnson
FHL Film Number: 255985
Charlotte Johnson
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Charlotte Johnson
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1878
Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1878
Baptism Place: Ireland, Cobh, Cork
Other Event Place: Mall
Diocese: Cloyne
Father:
Thomas Johnson
Mother:
Catherine Sullivan
A third child
Ellen Maria Johnson
in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: Ellen Maria Johnson
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1873
Birth Place: Queenstown, Cork, Ireland
Baptism Place: Queenstown, Cork, Ireland
Father:
Thomas Johnson
Mother:
Catherine Sullivan
FHL Film Number: 255892 |
Edited by - AntonH on 24/05/2021 16:34:34 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 16:23:20
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Thomas in 1910 US Census, with daughter Charlotte Egan in New York
Arrival date is 1901, occupation sailor
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5MG-9RR
Thomas Johnson
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Johnson
Age in 1910: 65
Birth Date: 1850
[1850]
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York, USA
Street: East 122
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1901
Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Sailor
Industry: Scows
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Out of Work: N
Number of Weeks Out of Work: 0
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Malachy Egan
38 Head
Charlotte Egan
32 Wife
Hany Egan
9 Daughter
Thomas P Egan
8 Son
Charlotte Egan
2 Daughter
Elizabeth Egan
0 Daughter
Margaret Horak
2 Boarder
Thomas Johnson 65 Father-in-law
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 18:42:18
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Thomas Johnston
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Thomas Johnston
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widower
Age: 53
Birth Date: abt 1848
Birth Place: Norway
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
House Number: ship
Residence Place: Shipping - Cork Harbour off Queenstown, Queenstown Rural No. 1, Cork, Ireland
Relation to Head: Servant
Occupation: Seaman A B
Religion: Church of England
Literacy: Read and write
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPB2-H7WB |
Edited by - AntonH on 24/05/2021 18:45:40 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 19:45:36
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| If Thomas Johnson was a sailor at the advanced age of 50-60, most likely he was a sailor before as a much younger man. Perhaps he'll turn up in the monstring lists indexes for Oslo.. |
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mlskillin
New on board
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 20:21:14
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Hello and thanks for all of your responses! As a newbie I'm still trying to figure out how to respond to each individual response.
I know that our Thomas Johnson died in Port Reading, NJ not in Chicago. He was married to Catherine Sullivan and on the Marriage record it said that they both were of Full Age. They seemed young to me.
The last census that I have stated that he was an Alien so I don't believe that he ever became a citizen but I will still check.
I'm wondering if I can find out what ship he might have taken to Cobh and if I can find any information on his parents. All I have is what was on the Marriage certificate which showed his father as John Johnson, farmer.
Thanks for the responses so far!!!
-Mary Lou
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/05/2021 : 23:55:10
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I wonder if this is some of the family in the 1901 Census.
Timothy Johnson
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Timothy Johnson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 13
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birth Place: Co Cork
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
House Number: 21.2
Residence Place: The Mall, Queenstown Urban No. 1, Cork, Ireland
Relation to Head: Nephew
Occupation: Scholar
Religion: R Catholic
Language Spoken: English
Literacy: Read and write
Household Members Age Relationship
Daniel Johnson
15 Head of Family (Head)
Timothy Johnson 13 Nephew
John Johnson
6 Nephew
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Queenstown_Urban_No__1/The_Mall/1138445/ |
Edited by - AntonH on 24/05/2021 23:57:33 |
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Ancestor born in Oslo emigrated to Queenstown, Ire
