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Leannekolin
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Australia
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  14:40:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi I am looking for information about my pop who apparently was a cabin boy on the SS Geiser and jumped ship in Fremantle western Australia in around 1912. On all the records we have of him eg my dads birth certificate, applications for volunteering in WW2 state he has stated was born Joseph Albert KOLIN, born in Flekkefjord, Norway on 24 0ctober 1898 however I can find t no record of him. My DNA show 19 per cent Jewish genetics on my paternal side so I am presuming pop had Jewish ancestors. Any ideas of how we can find more information about him would be greatly appreciated as I have no idea where to search next.
Leane Kolin

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  18:04:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assume this is his record.

Joseph Albert Kolin
in the Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945
Name: Joseph Albert Kolin
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1898
Birth Place: Flekkefiord Norway
Year Range: 1939-1948
Enlistment Place: Busselton, Western Australia
Service Number: W82174
Next of Kin: Doreen Kolin
Series Description: B884: Army Citizen Military Forces
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  18:06:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you know where the data on his father being named Jack E comes from?

Joseph Albert Kolin
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Joseph Albert Kolin
Death Age: 77
Death Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Place: Perth, Australia
Father: Jack E
Mother: Rosa
Registration Number: 2827/75
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  18:16:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In all of the Digitalarkivet records there are only 30 people with last name Kolin.

Records

None of them from Vest-Agder.
Edited by - AntonH on 07/01/2022 18:19:32
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AntonH
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USA
9303 Posts
Posted - 07/01/2022 :  18:22:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the list of Kolin from the 1891 Census

1891 Census
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  18:24:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In 1900 Census there is only one an Ole Kolin born in Sweden and living in Oslo.

None with a last name of Kolin in the 1910 Census.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037045016705
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  18:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The largest single group is this one living in Trondheim with father Ole Kolin

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053073024951
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  20:36:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
my dads birth certificate


Do you have a copy of this document?
Edited by - AntonH on 07/01/2022 20:36:31
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2022 :  23:51:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching without a name but born on 24 Oct and year 1895- 1905 in Flekkefjord finds 4 listings only one in 1898 a girl named Tony Margit Iverda Gabrielson and 3 for a girl named Hedvig Kvale born on that date but in 1901.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&firstname=&lastname=&birth_year_from=1895&birth_year_to=1905&birth_date=10-24&birth_place=flekkefjord&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/01/2022 :  00:53:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Familysearch finds a sprinkling of Kolin in Denmark but none named Joseph.
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ToreL
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Norway
842 Posts
Posted - 08/01/2022 :  23:54:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A bit of a mystery, this. I have often seen that emigrants enter the closest city as their place of origin, so I believe one should leave open the possibility that your "pop" (=grandfather??) was born not literally in Flekkefjord but in the surrounding area. Still, no Kolin in all of Agder, and no Josephs born at the right time. Anything else you have, would be useful.

As for the ship, I see there was indeed a Norwegian ship Geysir sailing to Australia at the time.
Edited by - ToreL on 08/01/2022 23:55:18
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/01/2022 :  00:14:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This one?
https://www.sjohistorie.no/en/skip/11549/
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ToreL
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Norway
842 Posts
Posted - 09/01/2022 :  04:01:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

This one?
https://www.sjohistorie.no/en/skip/11549/

That's the one I found. Home harbor in Kristiania/Lysaker, so not clear that it would hire sailors in Flekkefjord.

I did try to find him in the Flekkefjord sailors' rolls, without success. Should perhaps try Kristiania as well.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/01/2022 :  15:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also,Oslo's monsterings are individually indexed, so less of a long slog than you might think.
Edited by - jkmarler on 09/01/2022 15:40:37
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/01/2022 :  21:55:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, expanding the region to both Aust and Vest Agder, first name joseph, born in the years 1895-1905 on the date 28 Oct:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&jt%5B%5D=19&jt%5B%5D=2&r%5B%5D=2&firstname=jose*&lastname=&genders%5B%5D=m&birth_year_from=1895&birth_year_to=1905&birth_date=10-28&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel
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ToreL
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Norway
842 Posts
Posted - 11/01/2022 :  21:58:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The few people who turn up in searches at Digitalarkivet with last name Kolin, do not have first names that suggest Jewish heritage. I think you should leave open the possibility that your grandfather took a simplified version of his last name with him to Australia.
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