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jrbredehoft
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Posted - 11/02/2022 : 22:33:46
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I'm looking for information on my third-great uncle, Andreas Pedersen Finstuen. He was born October 4, 1844 to Peder Jensen Bratlien and Agnethe Olsdatter Aspegaarden in Torpa. He emigrated to the U.S. in 1870. He died December 21, 1927. His siblings (Johann Pedersen Finstuen, Ole Pedersen Finstuen, Peder Pedersen Fisntuen and Randine Pedersdatter Finstuen) all settled in Goodhue County, Minnesota but I cannot find any information on Andreas or where he settled. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/02/2022 : 23:04:58
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quote: He died December 21, 1927.
I find a Peter P. Finstuen who died on that date. But I would think that is his brother Peter Pedersen Finstuen. Do you have a record that Andreas died on that same date as well?
Peter P Finstuen in the Minnesota, U.S., Death Index, 1908-2017 Name: Peter P Finstuen Record Type: Death Death Date: 21 Dec 1927 Death Place: Goodhue, Minnesota, USA Death Registration Date: 1927 Certificate Number: 004693 Record Number: 498673 |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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ToreL
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 11:55:16
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There is a book by Arvid Sandaker from 1973, Utvandringen til Amerika fra Nordre og Søndre Land 1839-1915. I find just two passages about people referred to by the Finstuen name: p. 212, p. 215.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 12:17:13
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In Ole P Finstuen's obituary published in the Zumbrota News on 10 Nov 1905 page 3 col 2, it mentions that he is survived by his widow, 2 children, 3 brothers and 1 sister. Depending on what you know about the brother Johann's death date, you know that Andreas has perished by 1905 if Johann is still alive in 1905, and if Johann is dead by 1905, you know Andreas remains alive.
One other thing to consider is, perhaps Andreas didn't use Finstuen as his name over here. Perhaps you need to look for an Andreas Pederson in stead? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 12:27:43
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Agnethe O Finstuen's obituary in the Zumbrota Independent published 25 May 1899 mentions all five of her children as surviving her. Andrew is listed as living in St. Paul. |
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jkmarler
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ToreL
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 12:42:05
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quote: Originally posted by AntonH
quote: He died December 21, 1927.
I find a Peter P. Finstuen who died on that date. But I would think that is his brother Peter Pedersen Finstuen. Do you have a record that Andreas died on that same date as well?
There is a tree on Ancestry according to which the three siblings Randine, Peder and Andreas all died on that same day in 1927. Could it be that two of the three were either recorded as already dead or still alive at the date that one sibling died, and that a "before" or "after" modifier was later ignored? |
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ToreL
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 12:47:42
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Maybe Andreas used his father's original surname/farm name Bratlien rather than Finstuen? The Ancestry tree mentioned above refers to him by that name. Also note that there is a lot af Bratlien people on the same passenger list as the one that Andreas, Randine and their mothers appear on.
I did search the book by Sandaker for Bratlien as well, but no relevant match. |
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ToreL
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 13:07:17
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quote: Originally posted by ToreL
quote: Originally posted by AntonH
quote: He died December 21, 1927.
I find a Peter P. Finstuen who died on that date. But I would think that is his brother Peter Pedersen Finstuen. Do you have a record that Andreas died on that same date as well?
There is a tree on Ancestry according to which the three siblings Randine, Peder and Andreas all died on that same day in 1927. Could it be that two of the three were either recorded as already dead or still alive at the date that one sibling died, and that a "before" or "after" modifier was later ignored?
Yes in some programs if you put in a date of bef such and such date, it actually renders as if that is their actual date of death. |
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ToreL
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 20:03:10
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Andreas Peterson in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 Name: Andreas Peterson Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1876 Marriage Place: St Paul, Minnesota, USA Spouse: Milla Nelson Church Name: Christ Lutheran Church Church Location: St Paul, Minnesota
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=60722&h=2631249&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7602
A F Peterson in the Minnesota, U.S., Marriages Index, 1849-1950 Name: A F Peterson Gender: Male Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1876 Marriage Place: Ramsey, Minnesota Spouse's Name: Milla Nelson Spouse Gender: Female FHL Film Number: 1314548
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/02/2022 : 20:28:13
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This might be the birth record for Edward. Mother is Lena Nelson, possibly the sister of Milla Nelson wife of Andrew Anderson.
Edward C Anderson in the Minnesota, U.S., Births and Christenings Index, 1840-1980 Name: Edward C Anderson Gender: Male Birth Date: 14 Apr 1882 Birth Place: St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota Father: Gilbert Anderson Mother: Lena Nelson FHL Film Number: 1309120
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