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Scott Watkins
Starting member
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Posted - 06/03/2023 : 15:04:41
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Hello group - wondering if anyone might know how an emigrant would get from Copenhagen to Christiania in 1869. Was there regularly scheduled service on a small steamship? Ferry service? Type (and name) of ship? Researching for a book and trying to nail down this final detail. Thanks for any and all help!
PS jkmarler I saw your reply to another question I posted: THANK YOU!!! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2023 : 20:37:27
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Why do you think that your folks went from Copenhagen to Christiania? |
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Scott Watkins
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 07/03/2023 : 00:35:11
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thanks for asking that! because of their police departure record which says Copenhagen. |
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Scott Watkins
Starting member
USA
10 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2023 : 02:08:30
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... and because I was presuming (lack of actual evidence) that they travelled on the SS Oder (father in 1869) and SS Hero (mother and 3 sons in 1870). Also, the Hero is, according to Norway Heritage, a "feeder" ship for the Allan Line's SS Germany in June, 1870, and I know for certain the mother and 3 sons were on the Germany from Liverpool to Quebec, arriving in Quebec June 22, 1870. A lot of my research has been speculation of course, but the time-lines of the ships seems to match up very neatly. |
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dylankylesimon
Senior member
USA
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Posted - 07/03/2023 : 02:32:41
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Danish Emigration Records
https://ddd.dda.dk/udvandrer/udvandr_soeg.asp?navn=Hansen&stilling=&alder=33&sidste_oph_sted=&s_sogn=&s_oph_amt=&best_by=Omaha&best_stat=&best_land=&kontraktens_nr=&aar=&maaned=
Swedish Emigration Records Name: Hans Hansen Birth Year: abt 1836 Place of Origin: Sverrig Destination: Omaha City, N Record Date: 14 apr 1869 Port of Departure: Köpenhamn Database Name: EmiHamn Occupation/Title: Landmand Archive Call Number: 1948 Principal Person: Hansen Hans
Canada Incoming Passenger List
https://ibb.co/LxCSdbg
Name: Hans Hansen Gender: Male Arrival Age: 33 Birth Year: abt 1836 Arrival Date: Apr 1869 Arrival Port: Canada Vessel: Nova Scotian
Not exactly sure how you tie in Norway here, since it appears to me that he went from Sweden, to Denmark, to Canada?
Your real question would be: What does "Indirekte" stand for here? The answer is: Indirekte billetter er udstedt af en dansk rejseagent, men gælder afsejling fra en ikke-dansk afsejlingshavn (oftest tysk eller engelsk) - i disse tilfælde er skibsnavnet ikke oplyst.
Indirect tickets are issued by a Danish travel agent, but apply to departures from a non-Danish departure port (most often German or English) - in these cases the ship name is not stated.
Is there a chance that Hans Hansen came on the Bark Moss?
Hans Hansen (b. 1836) came aboard the Bark Moss (Bark Moss, Capt. Hansen from Christiania Apr. 24 to Quebec June 23)
4th from Top Left.
Name: Hans Hansen Arrival Age: 33 Birth Year: abt 1836 Arrival Date: Jun 1869 Arrival Port: Canada Vessel: Moss
The "Excellencen Toll" was a steamship sailing in a route between Christiania, Gothenburg and Copenhagen, calling at several smaller ports on the way. In 1863 she was mastered by Capt. O. Mattsson. She departed from Christiania for Gothenburg and Copenhagen every Tuesday at 7 o'clock am, calling at Drøbak; Horten, Moss, Vallø and Fredriksværn both ways. It arrived to Christiania every Sunday at 8 pm. Passengers were enrolled and gods expedited every Monday from 4 - 6 pm. at T. C. Kloed. It corresponded with the steamships "Moss" and "Foldin" at Fredriksværn. The above advertisement from Correspondenten Aug. 24, 1869, says that the Excellencen Toll would convey passengers to Copenhagen, where they could proceed on the American steamer "Fulton" for New York. The other announcement to the left is for the "Amerikanske Emigrant-Kompagni" and reveals that new, huge and well equipped 1st classed iron screw steamers would depart every week from Copenhagen for New York. The first ship for the season would be the S/S Denmark to depart on April 15th. General agent was O. Svendson. The S/S Denmark was owned by the National Line |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 07/03/2023 02:50:06 |
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