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alice rudo
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 Posted - 18/03/2003 : 00:16:42
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I would like to learn if Hans Arvesen and his son Harvey Arvesen of Vale are related to Ole Jonson Vale and his son John Oleson Vale . Hans and his son came in 1844 on the ship Salvator. John Olson came in 1843. All came from Gjerpen.
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thelebrity
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Norway
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Posted - 20/03/2003 : 13:07:59
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From what I can see they are not closely related. The father of Hans Arvesen must have been named Arve, and he cannot be a brother of Ole Jonsen as they do not share patronym.
I find them both (probably) in the 1826 tax register of Holden parish in Telemark. Hans Arvesen at the farm Hvalen and Ole and john (probably) at the farm Vale Store. This seems to be two farms that are not connected, even though the names are similar.
Here is a link to the 1826 tax register: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=holl1826&brukar=&loc=4762848&spraak=n&postnr=1&previous=10
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thelebrity
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Norway
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Posted - 20/03/2003 : 15:40:45
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To be completely sure this book would probably help you:
Title: Skifteregister for Holla Nedre Telemark : offentlige arveskifter 1667-1900 med oversikt over slekt og arvinger etter bønder og husmenn og verks- og bruksarbeidere.
(register over probation records in Holla parish in Telemark between 1667 and 1900, containing an overwiev of relatives and beneficiaries of farmers and workers)
Author: Arne Johan Gjermundsen
published in 1992
ISBN: 8291251002
The book has been digitalized, and you will find it here:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/dok/digitalpensjonatet/darrud/holla/#english
To get to the links to the registers go to the top of the document.
Here you will find Arve Nilsen, the father of Hans Arvesen:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/dok/digitalpensjonatet/darrud/holla/holla1.html#hs0365
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thelebrity
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alice rudo
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USA
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Posted - 22/03/2003 : 07:40:19
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From what I can see they are not closely related. The father of Hans Arvesen must have been named Arve, and he cannot be a brother of Ole Jonsen as they do not share patronym.
I find them both (probably) in the 1826 tax register of Holden parish in Telemark. Hans Arvesen at the farm Hvalen and Ole and john (probably) at the farm Vale Store. This seems to be two farms that are not connected, even though the names are similar.
Here is a link to the 1826 tax register: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=holl1826&brukar=&loc=4762848&spraak=n&postnr=1&previous=10
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nbuverud
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Norway
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Posted - 09/06/2003 : 11:42:29
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Hans Arvesen/Harvey Arvesen are related to Ole Jonsen Vale/John Olsen Hvale. The farms they lived on in Norway were parts of one big farm, who later were divided and increased as new generations grew up.
The relationship is half-close:
John Olsen Wale and Hans Arvesens father Arve Gundersen Gieddeboen (Hvale) were 2nd cousins.
They were also connected in another way:
John Olsen Wale and Hans Arvesens wife: Aaste Isachsdatter Romnes were 2nd cousins.
If you are interested I do have a small gedcom which explains the relationship better.
By the way: http://members.tripod.com/hollaamerika/ is history now. I was tired of the pop-ups! Now you can go to http://www.holla.no/ , and find more there.
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alice rudo
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 02:44:42
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I do thank you so very much! This question has been bothering me for a long time. It is important to me because of the mention of Hans Arvesen in the little book "Early Annals of Whitewater, 1837-1867" by Prosper Cravath, pub. 1906. I have almost no information on Ole and Jon, making it important in a way. I have been working on this family on my mother's side (also working on father's side - English) for over 10 years. Now I'm 81 years and just now not up to finding out much more unless it comes easily, which is why I am very grateful for your response. Thank you. I'm not really sure how to use this website.
My geneaogy program doesn't support Gedcom, unfortunately. It would be interesting to have your information. Alice
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alice rudo
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 03:11:07
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Hello again, I just looked at the web site you reccommended and found it interestiing. Thank you. Alice
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Vale farm
