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Carrie B
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USA
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Posted - 19/08/2013 :  17:05:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello, I'm looking for information on my great-great-grandfather, Iver F. Iverson.

He immigrated to Chicago (Illinois, USA) from Norway and was living in Chicago by 1874. His profession was a sailor or seaman.

I am not able to find any record of "Iver F Iverson" on passenger lists.

The only person that is close is Halver Iverson Flaa, somand (sailor), emigrated to Chicago in 1874. http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMITROND&personpostnr=13638&merk=13638

Could Halver change his name to Iver?

Any other ideas?

Thank you. :-)

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 19/08/2013 :  17:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely the Halver that left Trondheim in 1874 arriving in New York. Is he the same person you are seeking? Hard to know without more information. Was your Iver F Iverson born around 1842? The passenger above him on this Ancestry.com manifest is Ole I Falstad, same as on your Trondheim passenger list.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Haber Iversen
Arrival Date: 16 Jul 1874
Birth Date: abt 1842
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Utopia

Edited by - AntonH on 19/08/2013 17:46:57
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Carrie B
Medium member

USA
80 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  17:50:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hm, that's interesting. Thank you.

The emigration list from Norway also indicates he was born around 1842, but it says the ship was the Anchor Tasso, not the Utopia. I'll dig around some more with your new lead.
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  18:17:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The usual passage from Norway involved taking a feeder ship to the UK and a different ship to America.

Edited by - AntonH on 19/08/2013 18:32:14
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 19/08/2013 :  19:12:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1900 census and Iver's marriage record seem fairly consistent with his birth year as 1857. Also the 1900 census gives his migration as 1879 not 1874.
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Carrie B
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USA
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Posted - 19/08/2013 :  19:31:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, that is strange about the age and immigration year listed in the census. I have the original marriage document and there is no mention of their age on that document, so I'm not sure how the Ancestry.com marriage record included Iver's birth year. In looking through the city directories 1874 and onward, there is an Iver F. Iverson who was a sailor (which we know from family stories that he was), so that's why I thought he'd immigrated to Chicago by 1874. There are errors in the census, but a 5 year immigration difference is probably too big to dismiss. I guess I don't have a good answer right now!
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 19/08/2013 :  20:03:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's an Iver Iverson age 22 leaving in 1879 from Gran through Oslo:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=14&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=47248&merk=47248#ovre
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 19/08/2013 :  20:17:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's an Ivar Iverson b 1857 occupied as a sailor in the 1875 Norwegian census, living in Oslo:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=11&filnamn=f70301&gardpostnr=1253&personpostnr=37391&merk=37391#ovre

Old link no longer works, Here is 2024's:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052055038838

Link to image:
RA, Folketelling 1875 for 0301 Kristiania kjøpstad, 1875, s. 4271
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/ft20101203340545

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/08/2024 05:28:36
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  16:50:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is an Ivar Ivers. b 1857 living in Oslo (Kristiania) in the 1865 census. He is in some kind of institution of children--a foundling home, orphanage? or what. There is a Johanne Ivers. a widow as one of the principal managers.:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=4&filnamn=f60301&gardpostnr=1023&personpostnr=27783&merk=27783#ovre

Old link no longer works. Here's is today's 2024:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038027029229

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/08/2024 05:25:15
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Carrie B
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USA
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  16:56:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another great find! Thank you. Once I get a copy of the coroner's report for Johanna I hope that will shed some light on whether these could be the right people!
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  17:30:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

He is in some kind of institution of children--a foundling home, orphanage? or what.

Yes, it is an orphanage.

Jan Peter
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 21/08/2013 :  17:35:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
takk for hjelpa!

Here is a Johanne Ivers. age 60 headed to Chicago from and through Oslo in 1883. This was in Jan 1883 so might before after little Arthur was baptized, so possibly her who was godmother to Arthur:

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=15&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=62130&merk=62130#ovre

There are a couple of Claus Clausen who might be the Claus Sophus Clausen on Arthur's baptismal record. They claim Denmark, Holstein or Schleswig as point of origin through various censuses.

Edited by - jkmarler on 21/08/2013 17:59:47
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  18:26:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Iver in the 1900 census is also listed as "naturalized" so his record of that could be searched. The early naturalizations don't contain a lot of information but you might find the port and date he came into US.
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Carrie B
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USA
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Posted - 22/08/2013 :  01:21:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good find regarding Johanne. The Johanna who died in 1899 was age 79 at the time of death. In 1883 she would have been 62 or 63, similar to the Johanne you have found. I will let everyone know once I get the coroner's report from IRAD!
Also, the more I think about this, the more likely it is that Iver came from Oslo. We have a family photograph that is stamped with "Christiana" on the back.

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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2013 :  02:26:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Johanne Ivers. arrival in America. The name has been transcribed incorrectly. Looking at the original mainfest it is clearly Johanne Iversen. I could not find her in my original search for obvious reasons. So I looked for Albert Holmboe and he was much easier to find. As in the manifest for leaving Oslo found by Jackie he is one person removed from Johanne Iversen.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Johanne Joersen
Arrival Date: 15 Feb 1883
Birth Date: abt 1823
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark and Christiania, Norway
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Geiser

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Albert B Holmboe
Arrival Date: 15 Feb 1883
Birth Date: abt 1863
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark and Christiania, Norway
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Geiser

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Carrie B
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USA
80 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2013 :  02:37:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, lyndal. Excellent work! I need to work on improving my patience. Searching these records is so tedious, but I'm too likely to make mistakes and miss things by going quickly.
I'm hoping this is the same Johanne that will appear in the coroner's report when the copy arrives. At the very least it would give a clue as to Iver's relative.
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