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Scorpiove
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 Posted - 13/10/2004 : 21:21:52
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My grandma is the one who wrote Andrew, she was about 17 at the time and she didn't even know who the wife was, but What Hopkins listed as Hans Hansen Smilden's kids...
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All the children still living at home were born in NDak - Hans, 21; Hannah 19; Thomas 17; Inga 15; Tina 13; Henry 11; Ingvold 9; Marie 7
My dad confirmed were his great aunts and uncles, and that Ingvold was his grandpa  . So I'm pretty sure that the Hans Gerard Hansen Smilden That came from norway is the one Im related too. I think it would be to much of a coincidence for him and someone else to have the same kids in the same state in the same city :P.
I just have to play Sherlock holmes and figure out why Andrew Smilden was written in the book :P Thanks again for all your help, you guys have given me info that is worth much more than gold.  |
Edited by - Scorpiove on 13/10/2004 23:24:03 |
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Scorpiove
Junior member
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38 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2004 : 05:58:37
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| I was wondering if Its possible to see who Hans Jensens parents were. Jens something right. :) |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/10/2004 : 15:03:52
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Yes, it will probably be quite possible for you to research the family earlier. You'll reach the point where online sources probably won't be sufficient. The LDS library catalog indicates that they have Hyllestad, Sogn og Fjordane parish records copied to microfilm for years as early as 1706 and that there does exist a published set of bygdebøker for that area - "Hyllestad Bygdebok: Soga om Folket", 2 volumes by Inger Kellmer and Finn Borgen Førsund.
This URL will take you to my favorite 'how-to' articles for using the Norwegian church records and bygdebøker - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html
If you also click on the word INDEX at the top of that opening page to the 'articles' it will return you to the home page for Mr. Follesdal's website. He also has a County by County listing for each Norwegian 'county' which will probably include any specific URLs to online resources for the area. You of course are interested in Sogn og Fjordane - and Hyllestad and/or Askvoll within that county. |
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Scorpiove
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 14/10/2004 : 19:34:11
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| Thanks again Hopkins :). |
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Scorpiove
Junior member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2004 : 08:59:07
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Hi everyone, I was able to confirm that Hans Smilden is my Great Great Grandpa :). My Aunt gave me some information for his wife Maren "Marie" Smilden. Her last name is supposedly Totland born feb. 22 (1879) in Norway. I was also told by my Aunt Sherry that they were first cousins. Just wanted to update the post! :)
Edit: Also was wondering if anybody wanted to help me find the immigration records for maren? she left Norway in 1895.
Edit 2: I noticed Totland is another farm in the same area! is Maren "Marie" from this farm? Was she a cousin of Hans Hansens? So many more questions that are hard to answer! :p |
Edited by - Scorpiove on 23/10/2004 09:53:29 |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/10/2004 : 16:20:36
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This is probably her leaving from Bergen Click Here Maren Størnisdtr Totland from Finnaas in Hordland
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Scorpiove
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 23/10/2004 : 19:38:16
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| Wow thanks, even her birthday (1879) matches. It must be her. Thanks! |
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sargeandtina
New on board
USA
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Posted - 27/11/2004 : 09:44:51
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My name is Steven Smelden. I know part of the story you are looking for. Your grandfather and mine were brothers. When they arrived at Ellis Island thier names were changed from Hansen to Smelden and Smilden because there were so many Hans Hansens. Our families went there seaparate ways from there. My father's name was Lyle, and he had brothers by the name of Bill. Stan, Vance (all dead) and **** and Lyle (still alive) There was also a girl by the name of Marion (still living)My Uncle **** is the Families unofficial historian and he can tell you more than you could believe,; from the details of all the relationships and the other families that had married into ours.
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/11/2004 : 18:27:09
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Here is an article written by Dick Eastman of Ancestry. com regarding the Myth of Ellis Island name changes:
http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=4675
Also, recommend you read the excellent article on this site called "Those Norwegian Names".
You can contact people on this forum offlist and also edit your postings, maybe Glen Smilden won't mind that you gave his address and personal family dirt to someone offline but posting it on an open website for all to see Asking first is always a good idea |
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Scorpiove
Junior member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 29/11/2004 : 04:52:14
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| Thanks for the reply steve :). I'm not sure but according to the census records it was Hans Hansen who came from norway to the US and then change his name to Hans Smilden and then he had some children two of them being Hans Smelden and the other Ingvold Smilden so I think your grandpa and my great grandpa were born here in america :P. Its also very cool to meet someone who knows the same story! |
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chinook
New on board
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Posted - 15/09/2005 : 18:23:55
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Hello to everyone
I am the granddaughter of Hans Smelden. I lived with him and my grandmother in Larimore North Dakota until I was 7. The name change from smilden to smelden for my grandfather was because of mail. His father and him had the same name and it became a problem. You have really posted alot of information. I was so excited to read it all. My daughter and son already have copies. I have old family photos and would be glad to share with you. My mother was Marion the oldest daughter of Hans and I am her only daughter and the oldest of Hanss grandchildren. I knew most of the people you are talking about.My Mother died last November of cancer. Vance died a few years back of a heart attack he was 59 and leaves a wife and two sons in North Dakota. I would love to hear from you. My E-mail is Berrys2@GCI.net Hoping to hear from you |
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Scorpiove
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 14/05/2007 : 21:08:34
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Hi kandace, I tried to send you an email but the email provided in your post is long since dead. Let me post here the message I tried sending to you. Hopefully you will see it.
"I would greatly be interested in any family photos you may have. I'm
in the process of redoing the tree, and when I get things organized I
will be more than happy to share with you. But photos of any family
member is a big target of mine. At the moment I think I only have a
photo of Maren Smilden (Hans Hansen Smilden's wife). So any info or
photos would be great. Oh and sorry it took me so long to respond.
I haven't been at that message board for a while."
you can email me jaketheedwarf@gmail.com, this is an email that already gets spam, once you email me I will give you my private email. Thanks in advance! |
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Scorpiove
Junior member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 20:56:11
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Would like to make an update on this thread in case people are still reading. I talked to Glen Smelden the one mentioned earlier in this thread. He said the information I got from this forum was incorrect. He stated that he met a Helmer Smilden who was living in Minnesota (I think he mentioned 1960s). Helmer claimed to be the brother of Hans Hansen Smilden. Here is the problem I see with this, my Hans Hansen even if he wasn't the one found by jwiborg in the norway records was born in November 1873 according to the 1900 Census. Then we have Helmer here born in 1899.
Problem number two is that according to the 1900 Census Hans immigrated in 1893. While Helmer immigrated in 1924. It just doesn't add up. Glen also told me that Helmer told him a story about how Hans chose Smilden as his last name. He said he was a labourer who had a friend from the Neatherlands. Hans didn't know what to choose so this friend suggested that since he was from a town in named Smil in the neatherlands he could use that and add den to the end. Hans liked this idea so he took his friends suggestion even though he wasn't from his friends town.
Now I offer more support that the Hans in North Dakota is the one from the Smilden farm.
Number one in the 1900 Census For North Dakota Hans was born in Nov. 1873, the christening record jwiborg found in norway states he was born Nov 11th 1873. Then I recently found a World War 1 Draft card for My Hans Hansen Smilden in North Dakota. Can you guess the birthdate? Yep November 11th 1873! So in conclusion I think Glen was talking to maybe a nephew or cousin of Hans' at most certainly not a brother (A little note: Helmer's mom's maiden name is Hansdatter according to the Minnesota Death Index, the same has Hans Hansen's mom). Definitely someone who didn't get the story right.
Sorry for the long post everyone but now I have some questions. jwiborg found Hans' parents Hans Jensen and Halfrid Hansdatter in the 1865 census. I noticed in the same census on the same farm that there is a Jens Lasses. listed as "Føderaadsmand", and a Ingeborg Hansd. listed as Føderaadskone. Hans Jensens was listed as Gaardbruger, Selveier. What are the Chances that Jens Lasses. and Ingeborg Hansd. are his parents?
Next (sorry guys I know long post) I think I found death records for Hans Hansen Smilden's parents in "Smilla" residence. First I have Halfrid Hansdatter born 1846 and died January 14th 1892 (note: remember Helmer being born in 1899?). You can see at this link. Then we have Hans Jensen born 1832 and died May 9th 1893, again you can see at this link. What is interesting according to the immigration records for Hans Gerad Hansen Smilden found by Hopkins here, he left about may 24th 1893. maybe his parents dying is why Hans left Norway? Thank you for reading if you made it this far and look forward to any insight any of you guys may have thanks again! |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/06/2007 : 00:12:39
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Originally posted by Scorpiove
What are the Chances that Jens Lasses. and Ingeborg Hansd. are his parents?
I would say chances are about 100%...  Link.
Askvoll and Hyllestad are in the same area of Sogn & Fjordane.
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Scorpiove
Junior member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2007 : 01:42:29
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| Very cool! Thanks again jwiborg, good to see your still on these boards. I found a marriage record for Hans Jensen and Halfrid Hansdatter here. Does it look like they would be the same ones in my family? |
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