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KLeach
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 Posted - 12/02/2013 : 06:16:48
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Can you direct me to the link for this census entry?
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Possibly her brother Olaf Bunæss in census-1900. He is listed as born April 1868. Possibly a transcription error. Julia's brother Olaf is born April 8th, 1864.
Julie is born May 17th, 1862.
Name: Oluf Burness
Event: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: ED 191 Gordon Township Osakis village, Todd, Minnesota, United States
Birth Date: Apr 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Race or Color (Standardized): White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Estimated Marriage Year: 1892
Immigration Year: 1883
Head Oluf Burness M 32 Norway
Wife Sigrid Burness F 30 Norway
Son Severin Burness M 11 Minnesota
Daughter Ida C Burness F 8 Minnesota
Son Gilman O Burness M 5 Minnesota
Jan Peter
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KLeach
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Posted - 12/02/2013 : 07:46:34
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A photo was found recently, taken in Christiania, on which Hjordis transcribed the names of her 3 half sisters named Olga, Therese and Mathilda (likely listed from youngest to oldest).
I have not been able to locate the other girls under the last name of Pettersen or Pettersdatter in either Eidsvoll, Akershus, Drammen, Buskerud, or Oslo.
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Originally posted by jkmarler
You mean this link here, #17:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Jacob, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1896-1903), Fødte og døpte 1899, side 80.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4882&idx_id=4882&uid=ny&idx_side=-85
Yes for the faddernes (witnesses or godparents) there are Simon Mortenson (or Martinson), carpenter, and his wife Jorgine;
Hjalmar Olsen, unmarried girl Theresse Pettersen, Jakob Vilhelmson Byhuset (?)
The half-sister Olga is listed as being born about 1876 so unlikely to be Julie's child but more likely to be the child of Julie's Petterson husband, unless Olga's birthyear is different.
Jackie M..
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KLeach
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/02/2013 : 08:55:10
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Column 6: Grooms father:
Afdøde Gaardbruger Jens Thorersen, Smedstad - deceased farmer Jens Thorersen, Smedstad
Column 7: Brides father:
Afdøde Husmand Niels Olsen, Hoel eller Gjerdrum Eie - deceased cottager Niels Olsen, Hoel or Gjerdrum Eie.
Column 8: Witnesses:
Farmer Hans Mikkelsen and farmer Herman Poulsen, Gjerdrum
Column 9: Dates for intention to get married. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/02/2013 : 09:00:24
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Recommendations for the best default spelling?
Hans Jenssen, head of houshold, farmer, owner
Kristine Nilsdatter, his wife
Nils Hansen, their son, helps the father with the farming.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2013 : 12:50:46
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Originally posted by KLeach
Can you direct me to the link for this census entry?
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Possibly her brother Olaf Bunæss in census-1900. He is listed as born April 1868. Possibly a transcription error. Julia's brother Olaf is born April 8th, 1864.
Julie is born May 17th, 1862.
Name: Oluf Burness
Event: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: ED 191 Gordon Township Osakis village, Todd, Minnesota, United States
Birth Date: Apr 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Jan Peter
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M9QS-JSM |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 21/03/2013 : 04:43:43
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Have you looked in these baptismal indices for Drammen?
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?slag=vismeny&fylkenr=6&katnr=4&emnenr=&aar=&dagens=&knr=602
In database selector, Buskerud, Drammen municipality
Church registers, baptised
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Baptised in Strømsø 1792-1822
Godfathers/mothers in Strømsø 1792-1822
Baptisms in Strømsø parish1815-1829
Baptisms in Strømsø parish 1830-1847
Baptisms in Strømsø parish1848-1858
Baptisms in Strømsø parish 1859-1868
Baptisms in Strømsø parish 1868-1873
Baptisms in Strømsø parish 1873-1877
Baptisms in Strømsø local parish in Strømsø parish 1878-1885
Baptisms in Strømsø local parish in Strømsø parish 1885-1894
Baptisms in Bragernes parish 1848-1859
Baptisms in Bragernes parish 1860-1868
Baptisms in Nye bydeler local parish in Strømsø parish 1870-1878
Baptisms in Bragernes parish 1869-1875
Baptisms in Bragernes parish 1875-1877
Baptisms in Tangen local parish in Strømsø parish 1877-1893
Baptisms in Bragernes parish 1878-1885
Baptisms in Tangen local parish in Skoger parish 1725-1737
Baptisms in Skoger parish 1862-1872
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lesleybuness
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Posted - 23/04/2013 : 03:49:43
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I am the grand daughter of Palmer Norman Buness. Relative of Sharon Hall Buness. I am not sure how much I can offer but I'd like to know more . I read that his name came up in this thread.
If you have any questions I'd like to be a part of the discussion.
Buness,Burness ,Bunaes -I've always wondered.
What I do know is that I have a couple of pictures of my great grandmother and father and I look just like them.
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KLeach
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 00:29:50
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allanbjorklund
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Posted - 07/09/2013 : 01:20:59
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Originally posted by KLeach
I found out recently that Hjordis (b. 8 Feb 1899 in Drammen/Olso), had an aunt by the name of Anne Kristine Johnson. But, I've hit a wall. There is a reference to a funeral bulletin that contained the following information:
Anne Kristine Johnson was born to Anne and Christian Johnson on Sept.25, 1870 at Drammen, Norway and died Dec.19, 1961. She came to this country at age 18 and spent her entire life in the Gordon Community. She was united in marriage to John O. Johnson on October 26, 1896. To this union were born nine children: eight of whom survive her passing. Olga, Clara, Lara, Freda, Millie, Carl of Longview, Wash., Clifford of Lebanon, Ore., Bryan of Alexandria; one son William passed away on Dec.11, 1959. Mr. Johnson preceded his wife Aug.4, 1939.
Service Dec.22, 1961, Salem Lutheran Church, Osakis, MN.
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The problem is the last name Johnson. Hjordis' grandparents' names were Kristian Jenssen (b.abt 1825) and Olea Kristensdatter (b. abt 1824). There is an Anne K Kristensdatter listed as one of her mother's sisters (Julia Kristensdatter/Bunaes) who was born in Eidsvoll, Akershus, Norway in 1869. I have looked to census info in Drammen for the period of 1870, but not all the information has been archived yet. Julia's other siblings are: Anton (b. abt.1855 in Eidsvoll), Karl (b. 30 Aug 1860 in Eidsvoll), and Olaf Bunaes (b. 8 Apr 1864 in Bunaes).
Julia, Hjordis, and this mystery aunt settled in the Osakis, MN area.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by KLeach
The reason for Julia and Hjordis coming to Osakis is not clear.
The reason for their emigration is quite obvious.
Julia was a cleaner in the Norwegian 1900-census, and as a widow with a young child, her finances must have been quite low.
Her brother in Osakis, MN probably sent her letters about the life he lived over there, and that there were good paid jobs for her too, most likely as maid or similar.
The economic growth in America was high, and there were jobs for "everyone". The situation in Norway was the opposite. The death-rate decreased, the population increased, and there were not enough jobs for people. Between 1825 - 1930 more than 800000 norwegians emigrated to America.
Oluf also paid for the ticket for her and his niece.
Jan Peter
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allanbjorklund
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Posted - 07/09/2013 : 01:23:08
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Originally posted by allanbjorklund
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Originally posted by KLeach
I found out recently that Hjordis (b. 8 Feb 1899 in Drammen/Olso), had an aunt by the name of Anne Kristine Johnson. But, I've hit a wall. There is a reference to a funeral bulletin that contained the following information:
Anne Kristine Johnson was born to Anne and Christian Johnson on Sept.25, 1870 at Drammen, Norway and died Dec.19, 1961. She came to this country at age 18 and spent her entire life in the Gordon Community. She was united in marriage to John O. Johnson on October 26, 1896. To this union were born nine children: eight of whom survive her passing. Olga, Clara, Lara, Freda, Millie, Carl of Longview, Wash., Clifford of Lebanon, Ore., Bryan of Alexandria; one son William passed away on Dec.11, 1959. Mr. Johnson preceded his wife Aug.4, 1939.
Service Dec.22, 1961, Salem Lutheran Church, Osakis, MN.
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The problem is the last name Johnson. Hjordis' grandparents' names were Kristian Jenssen (b.abt 1825) and Olea Kristensdatter (b. abt 1824). There is an Anne K Kristensdatter listed as one of her mother's sisters (Julia Kristensdatter/Bunaes) who was born in Eidsvoll, Akershus, Norway in 1869. I have looked to census info in Drammen for the period of 1870, but not all the information has been archived yet. Julia's other siblings are: Anton (b. abt.1855 in Eidsvoll), Karl (b. 30 Aug 1860 in Eidsvoll), and Olaf Bunaes (b. 8 Apr 1864 in Bunaes).
Julia, Hjordis, and this mystery aunt settled in the Osakis, MN area.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by KLeach
The reason for Julia and Hjordis coming to Osakis is not clear.
The reason for their emigration is quite obvious.
Julia was a cleaner in the Norwegian 1900-census, and as a widow with a young child, her finances must have been quite low.
Her brother in Osakis, MN probably sent her letters about the life he lived over there, and that there were good paid jobs for her too, most likely as maid or similar.
The economic growth in America was high, and there were jobs for "everyone". The situation in Norway was the opposite. The death-rate decreased, the population increased, and there were not enough jobs for people. Between 1825 - 1930 more than 800000 norwegians emigrated to America.
Oluf also paid for the ticket for her and his niece.
Jan Peter
You have identified my grandmother Anne Kristine, and my mother Millie. Anne Kristine lived with us on our farm at Osakis and died there.
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KLeach
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Posted - 21/09/2013 : 05:00:06
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This is great. I would be interested in contacting you directly for more information.
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Originally posted by allanbjorklund
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Originally posted by allanbjorklund
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Originally posted by KLeach
I found out recently that Hjordis (b. 8 Feb 1899 in Drammen/Olso), had an aunt by the name of Anne Kristine Johnson. But, I've hit a wall. There is a reference to a funeral bulletin that contained the following information:
Anne Kristine Johnson was born to Anne and Christian Johnson on Sept.25, 1870 at Drammen, Norway and died Dec.19, 1961. She came to this country at age 18 and spent her entire life in the Gordon Community. She was united in marriage to John O. Johnson on October 26, 1896. To this union were born nine children: eight of whom survive her passing. Olga, Clara, Lara, Freda, Millie, Carl of Longview, Wash., Clifford of Lebanon, Ore., Bryan of Alexandria; one son William passed away on Dec.11, 1959. Mr. Johnson preceded his wife Aug.4, 1939.
Service Dec.22, 1961, Salem Lutheran Church, Osakis, MN.
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The problem is the last name Johnson. Hjordis' grandparents' names were Kristian Jenssen (b.abt 1825) and Olea Kristensdatter (b. abt 1824). There is an Anne K Kristensdatter listed as one of her mother's sisters (Julia Kristensdatter/Bunaes) who was born in Eidsvoll, Akershus, Norway in 1869. I have looked to census info in Drammen for the period of 1870, but not all the information has been archived yet. Julia's other siblings are: Anton (b. abt.1855 in Eidsvoll), Karl (b. 30 Aug 1860 in Eidsvoll), and Olaf Bunaes (b. 8 Apr 1864 in Bunaes).
Julia, Hjordis, and this mystery aunt settled in the Osakis, MN area.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by KLeach
The reason for Julia and Hjordis coming to Osakis is not clear.
The reason for their emigration is quite obvious.
Julia was a cleaner in the Norwegian 1900-census, and as a widow with a young child, her finances must have been quite low.
Her brother in Osakis, MN probably sent her letters about the life he lived over there, and that there were good paid jobs for her too, most likely as maid or similar.
The economic growth in America was high, and there were jobs for "everyone". The situation in Norway was the opposite. The death-rate decreased, the population increased, and there were not enough jobs for people. Between 1825 - 1930 more than 800000 norwegians emigrated to America.
Oluf also paid for the ticket for her and his niece.
Jan Peter
You have identified my grandmother Anne Kristine, and my mother Millie. Anne Kristine lived with us on our farm at Osakis and died there.
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KLeach
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Posted - 29/09/2013 : 18:52:09
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Anne Kristine Johnson was born to Anne and Christian Johnson on Sept.25, 1870 at Drammen, Norway and died Dec.19, 1961. She came to this country at age 18 and spent her entire life in the Gordon Community. She was united in marriage to John O. Johnson on October 26, 1896. To this union were born nine children: eight of whom survive her passing. Olga, Clara, Lara, Freda, Millie, Carl of Longview, Wash., Clifford of Lebanon, Ore., Bryan of Alexandria; one son William passed away on Dec.11, 1959. Mr. Johnson preceded his wife Aug.4, 1939.
Service Dec.22, 1961, Salem Lutheran Church, Osakis, MN.
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The date from this funeral bulletin is different by one year as shown in the record #46 below. Possible transcription error?
Through one of the posters on this site, we have found another possible connection for Julia and Anne Kristine that we are trying to confirm. In my records, I have Julia's father and mother listed as Kristian Jenssen (b about 1825 in Eidsvoll, I think) and Olea Kristensdatter (b. about 1824, we also believe in Eidsvoll), the other member has Christian Jensen and Olivia Thompson as Anne Kristine's parents without any birth or other information.
Is there a second family in the mix connected to Kristian/Christian?
Anne Kristine was known as an aunt to Hjordis, therefore, possibly, sister to her mother, Julia. However, there is no supporting evidence.
We've hit a snag at that point.
Suggestions?
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Originally posted by eibache
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Julia's other siblings are: Anton (b. abt.1855 in Eidsvoll), Karl (b. 30 Aug 1860 in Eidsvoll), and Olaf Bunaes (b. 8 Apr 1864 in Bunaes)
- Olaf Bunaes was born at Bunæsmoen in Eidsvoll, ref #22 here.
Other siblings recorded in 1875.
Anne Kristine Christiansdatter was born Sept 25 1869, see #46.
This is most likely the aunt you are looking for.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/09/2013 : 19:06:57
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The discrepancy you note concerning Anne's birthdate (her baptismal record records one date of birth and her funeral program or obit record another birthdate) is a possible cause for concern however when you analyze conflicting records, generally a record contained in the record for that event is generally given more weight. I.E. the birthdate recorded on a birth certificate is generally recorded closer in time to the actual event and less subject to memory and other processes and chaos.
As to another, different set of parents, lay out what the actual sources are for that information and analyze that. Drammen is a rather different place than Eidsvoll. It is possible that one could be born elsewhere than where one is baptized. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/09/2013 : 23:00:32
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Anne Kristine was known as an aunt to Hjordis, therefore, possibly, sister to her mother, Julia.
- supporting evidence:
Julie, born may 17 1862, #23 - parents Kristian Jensen, Bunæsmoen and Olia Kristensdatter.
Anne Kristine, born Sept 25 1869, #46 - parents Christian Jensen and Olea Christensdatter, Bunæsmoen.
Note also "Julia's other siblings are: Anton (b. abt.1855 in Eidsvoll), Karl (b. 30 Aug 1860 in Eidsvoll), and Olaf Bunaes (b. 8 Apr 1864 in Bunaes)"
Your "Anne Kristine Johnson was born to Anne and Christian Johnson on Sept.25, 1870 at Drammen" is most likely not correct.
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Pettersen/Smedstad/Olsen/Rodvald/Svedjan/Bunaes
