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jwiborg
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 Posted - 31/05/2012 : 23:12:21
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I've sent him a private message on the Forum's internal messaging system. Let's see if he knows something... 
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/05/2012 : 23:15:10
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This would appear to be the same family in the 1875 Census. Notice the name changes, but Carl Knudson stays the same. Also Karen or Caren birth year is ten years off.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/05/2012 : 23:20:46
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This may be Elen f. Hammer's baptismal #14 on girl's page:
Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Kristiansund in Kristiansund, Parish register (official) nr. 572A05 (1819-1832), Birth and baptism records 1824, page 68-69.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16102&idx_id=16102&uid=ny&idx_side=-37
A few ripples on parents' names etc. But her name is Elen Carolina.... |
Edited by - jkmarler on 31/05/2012 23:28:45 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/05/2012 : 23:31:05
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Originally posted by lyndal40
This would appear to be the same family in the 1875 Census. Notice the name changes, but Carl Knudson stays the same. Also Karen or Caren birth year is ten years off.
NHDC
Thanks! This looks absolutely normal to me, to have those discrepancies. Notice the job titles of Styrmand, Matros, and Sømand.
From the beginning I guessed maybe Charles Wilson was born into a family just like this (seamen). |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/05/2012 : 23:32:42
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Originally posted by lyndal40
This would appear to be the same family in the 1875 Census. Notice the name changes, but Carl Knudson stays the same. Also Karen or Caren birth year is ten years off.
NHDC
Yes, it's them. Karen Christina Abrahamsdtr. son-in-law is a sailor, and two of her grand-sons are seamen. This was a maritime family...
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/05/2012 : 23:35:54
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Originally posted by jkmarler
This may be Elen f. Hammer's baptismal #14 on girl's page:
Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Kristiansund in Kristiansund, Parish register (official) nr. 572A05 (1819-1832), Birth and baptism records 1824, page 68-69.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16102&idx_id=16102&uid=ny&idx_side=-37
A few ripples on parents' names etc. But her name is Elen Carolina....
Another great find! 
Yes, this looks like Elen Carolina. She is Elen in that first census (1865) and Caroline in the second (1875).
If I read right, the father here is a søfarer - sailor. Hard to decipher his name, but I can tell enough that it is Ole Olsen Hammer.
I can't read the place mentioned after the parents names (paa/of/from ..... somewhere).
No way could I read this at all if I didn't already know the names, and you telling me where to look. |
Edited by - JaneC on 31/05/2012 23:41:35 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/06/2012 : 00:03:20
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Iver wife and daughter arriving in New York. They list their destination as Chicago, Illinois.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Iver Knudsen
Arrival Date: 30 Aug 1884
Birth Year: abt 1822
Age: 62
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Larne, Ireland
Destination: Chicago, Illinois
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: State of Alabama |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/06/2012 : 00:18:34
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Originally posted by jwiborg
I've sent him a private message on the Forum's internal messaging system. Let's see if he knows something...
Jan Peter
Again I'm not sure how you do all this. It's like magic. Thanks so much! |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/06/2012 : 00:25:47
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lyndal 40, it's good to have that baptism here with us - at this point it's been a long time since we've seen it.
About the 1884 immigration of Iver Knudson, wife Gjertine and daughter Nikoline - the neighbors of Karen Christine Abrahamsdtr in 1875:
Interesting, jkmarler. I am picturing Karen reading the letters of Charles aloud to them. Of course, I know that's just fantasy! They are going to Chicago, so that's another site to search for any children of Karen who may have immigrated. It's a long shot, but why not try it... |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/06/2012 : 00:35:31
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| I've been thinking about Charles Wilson being a lighterman. Some time I could picture him on a dock, going up and down a gangplank, to load and unload a large ship docked there. But a lighter is a small, flat-bottomed boat. I think lightermen would get in the lighter and go out into the harbor, where a large ship is moored, away from the dock. From the lighter they load and unload the ship. Just thinking he may be in a boat more of the time than I previously pictured. In any event, whether that's right or no, seamen jobs were also in his records (Brooklyn City Directories on the Skippy Wilson website). |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/06/2012 : 02:21:17
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These are the last of the Oslo parishes confirmations.
Oslo Domkirke / Var Frelsers Confirmands, 1848, 1849, 1850, 1851:
1 Oct 1848
#26 Carl Christian Mester* 15 years b. Aker
b. 12 Sept 1833 baptized 24 Nov 1833
parents: Marie Larsdtr nedre Schoi, Anders Olsen
vaccinated 13 Mar 1838
*included because father’s patronymic is Olsen
#36 Carl Olaus Thorsen* age 15 years b Aker
b 26 Sept 1833 bapt 31 Oct 1833
parents: Thor Olsen, Birthe Ingebretsdtr
vaccinated 25 Apr 1848
*included because father’s patronymic is Olsen
14 Apr 1850
#25 Carl Olaus Olsen age 15 b Christiania
b. 22 May 1835, bapt 1 June 1835
parents Ole Olsen, Anne Marie Gundersdtr
vaccinated 25 July 1837
#46 Carl Olaus Knudsen age 14 ½ b. Christiania
b. 20 Sept 1835 bapt Garnisonsmenigheten 3 Jan 1836
parents: Ole Knudsen, Marthe Marie Olsdtr
vaccinated 28 June 1836
#57 Carl August Olsen age 15, b. Christiania
b. 15 Apr 1835 bapt 10 May 1835
parents: Hans Olsen, Johanne Marie Svensdtr?
Vaccinated 29 Aug 1835 Gjerdstrom
29 Sept 1850
#46 Carl Ludvig Olsen b. Christiania
b. 5 Nov 1835 baptized V.F. (Var Frelsers) 12 Nov 1835
parents: Ole Christophersen, Marthe Pedersdtr
vaccinated 23 Feb 1836
#55 Carl Ludvig Olsen age 15 b. Moss
b. 10 Oct 1835 bapt 27 Dec 1835
parents: Peder Olsen, pige Birthe Oline Dyrhuus
vaccinated 21 Apr 1850 (sic)
27 Apr 1851
#49 Carl Louis Otto Knudsen age 14 ¼ b. Christiania
b. 25 Dec 1836 bapt V.F. 9 Apr 1837
parents: Ole Knudsen, Anne Malene Olsdtr
vaccinated 3 Apr 1838 Doderlein
#70 Carl Johan Johansen age 15, b. Christiania
b. 7 May 1836 bapt 16 May 1836
parents: enkemand Johan Johannsen, pige Anne Marie Olsdtr
vaccinated 26 June 1838
* included because his mother’s patronymic is Olsdtr
5 Oct 1851
#26 Carl Nielsen age 15 ½ b. Christiania
b. 28 Mar 1836 bapt V.F. 8 Jan 1837
parents: Ole Nielson, Anne Lovise Borgen
vaccinated 25 July 1837
#28 Carl Bernhard Jensen age 16 1/4 b. Christiania
b. 28 June 1835 bapt V.F. 16 Aug 1835
parents: Ole Jensen, Inger Marie Knudsdtr
vaccinated 6 Sept 1836
#29 Carl Julius Olsen age 16 ½ b. Christiania
b. 12 Apr 1835 bapt V.F. 17 May 1835
parents: Thorvald Olsen, Anna Helene Aamodt
vaccinated 10 Nov 1835
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