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Lukeduk1980
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 Posted - 26/07/2011 : 17:26:37
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| That would match census records. US census records state he immigrated in 1883. And that would match part of my story. Does that immigration record by any chance tell of what state was his destination or what port he arrived in? Thanks again Jackie. You Rock! |
Edited by - Lukeduk1980 on 26/07/2011 17:40:06 |
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AntonH
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Lukeduk1980
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 17:29:57
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| That would sound correct since the father was gone, then shortly after the twin brother died. Can we confirm from an earlier census record whether she was married to someone by the name Iver Iverson? Of course it is possible that they were not even married as I have no proof of that. |
Edited by - Lukeduk1980 on 26/07/2011 17:34:09 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 17:45:15
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The proof is, as they say, in the pudding. On the baptismal record the parents are identfied as married, the twins are legitmate. In the 1865 census Brynild is identfied as e = widow.
You may wish to confirm the marriage and the deaths of Iver and the twin by looking in the Nore parish registers for them. It is a very small parish, not many pages to look through.
The name Iver Iverson may have come from an extension of the Yankee practice of inheriting surnames. You are Svend Iverson and therefore it is assumed that your father's last name is Iverson. Only in Norway that may or may not be the case.
Other records than the church permission to go register might tell when and where and what ship he travelled on. Look at the registers in the Emigrants sections found in the database selector of the Norwegian Digital archives. |
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Lukeduk1980
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 17:57:16
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Not the first time they got something wrong (Yankees). They couldn't spell a lot of things right back then. Heres my last question, the children tell that he was an Everson. Now we can not find any records to support that except from basic word of mouth from the Svend's kids biography. What do you think happened to get the names wrong as I am new to this research?? Have you seen this before?
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 18:21:08
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| Well, in my district in Norway Iver is pronounce Ever rather than EYE-ver as we do in America. It may be a distinction without a difference. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 18:28:24
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Hi.
Another option we have not looked into:
Perhaps Svend was bap. acc. traditional Norwegian naming practices.
Here is an example:
Sven Gundersen born Dec. 11. 1864 in Gausdal parish to Gunder Iversen Christine Anundsdatter, see here
The family em. to Burbank Minnesota.
In the1880 census for Burbank the wole family used Iverson as lastname.
Gunder Iverson 40
Christine Iversen 44
Sven Iverson 16 etc
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Kċarto
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 18:38:23
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Seems like you found him Jackie.
Svend was born on Skarpaasen (Skarpċs) and em. from Rustand eie, a sub fam under Rustand.
I let my former posting stand since it was only an example on Norwegian naming practice.
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Lukeduk1980
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 19:57:52
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A lot of things come into play.
One rule of evidence is that the record created closest in time to the event has the greatest likelihood of being correct. Human memory is fabulous but also fallible.
Besides you are never a good eyewitness to your own birthday--you are very unlikely to remember the event. So you rely on your family to keep the date straight.
Census records are created by humans. |
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Lukeduk1980
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 20:34:50
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Ok so this is what we have for Svend Iverson
Svend (Svein) Iverson b. 06 Apr 1862, as a twin. to Iver Sveinsen Skarpaasen & Brynild Halvorsdatter. He was baptised 18 Jun 1862 . Iver Sveinsen Skarpaasen & Brynild Halvorsdatter were married Oct 20 1860. and Svend immigrated in 1883. Anything on what happened to the mother? What happened to her after she left? Did she re-marry? Also, any record of what Iver Sveinsen Skarpaasen die from or date of death?
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Kċarto
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 20:42:36
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Hi, I remember Stendalen when I saw your posting.
Ole´s birth record was "hidden" in the Eidanger records.
Siljan (Slemdal) was a subparish in Eidandger until 1847.
Ole Olsen born Nov. 16. 1825, bap. Dec. 11.
Parents Ole Levordsen and Marthe Hansdatter, see 1.page #20
Ole Levordesen was born on Grorud in Siljan, see here
In the 1960´s I was on Grorud several times, my uncle was born there 1917.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 20:49:50
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There was no such thing as "correct spelling". Spelling was only an attempt to write down what a word sounded like. It is common problem for genealogists... we learn to expect it and some of us even learn to enjoy collecting the name variations discovered.
http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/OnE/Spelling.html
Dates are often mixed up. Some people have excellent memories for dates - others don't. I have an entire branch of my family who were "date challenged". They bought a new family bible after they emigrated to the US and important dates entered in that book for the family are all wrong! Some are very close, some have a few right pieces of the dates, but when compared to the primary documents they are all still wrong in one way or another.
Some of these things just were not as important years ago as we think they are today.
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Lukeduk1980
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Posted - 26/07/2011 : 21:30:22
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| Any record of what happened to Svends mother? Also was a name given to the twin? |
Edited by - Lukeduk1980 on 26/07/2011 21:49:03 |
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