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plnd94
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  01:37:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the good information on marriage for Ingebrigt Evensen and Guri Olsdtr - and even got the birth, parents, paternal grandparents for Guri.

Question on possible maternal grandparents for Guri - Guri's mother is Lisbet Arntsdatter born ca 1790. Only one of that age on 1801 census is on Præsthus , parents Arnt Olsen 36 & Ingebor Olsdtr.36.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058446001758

Is there any way to know if this is the correct Lisbet Arntsdter ?
Kay
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  08:53:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guris siblings:
Endre, (uægte) born Dec 15 1817, #6,
Ingeborg, born Oct 20 1829, #26,
Ole born April 8 1832, #11,
Henrich, born Aug 8 1835, #14.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 02/09/2013 09:08:00
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  09:07:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Einersen, Vollum 34 years old and Lisbeth Arentsdatter, 32 years were married June 19 1822, #10. (Only witnesses given here.)

The Lisbeth Arntsdatter, (10) in 1801 could very well be the right one considering names given to her children and her age when they married.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 02/09/2013 09:09:34
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plnd94
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Posted - 04/09/2013 :  05:28:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good information on Lisbeth Arntsd. family. Thanks Einar!

Emigration for Ole Ingrbrigtsen Wollum? born 8 Dec 1859 Soknedal, ST. 1900 and 1910 Census Peru Dunn Wis both say he came 1880. There is an Ole Vollum is listed as sawmill worker in 1880 Menomonie, but age is a little off (should be 21, not 25). Several names listed with him are from the same parish of Norway, so might be the right Ole.

Searched but did not find him in records leaving Norway or arriving America around that time. One possibility- Ole Ingebrytsen age 21 on Ship Circassian, arr 8 June 1879 in Quebec from Liverpool listed with 4 other Norwegians going to Menominee, Mich.

Any suggestions how to find
- When Ole left Norway
- Arrival in America
Added note - Ole did end up near Menomonie Wisconsin (not Menominee Michigan). Maybe because there were others there from Soknedal - friends or relatives.

Edited by - plnd94 on 12/09/2013 06:05:07
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  06:14:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are the Utflyttede records from Ole's parish which could be looked at.in the parish registers....
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plnd94
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:35:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Ingebrigtsen Wollum was on the 1875 Soknedal census and said to be in Wisconsin by 1880. Utflyttede records in Soknedal only go to 1878, so checked but did not find Ole. I also checked all Støren records with no luck.

Ole probably left 1879 - 1880 - so may be no way to trace him.

Thanks to all for your expertise. You have been a great help on this family! Kay
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eibache
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  20:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could this be him? Menomonie.

Einar
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jwiborg
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  22:14:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Could this be him? Menomonie.


Ole INGEBRYTSEN (21) arrived Quebec on the CIRCASSIAN on 08 JUN 1879. I agree that this must be your guy.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 12/09/2013 22:17:43
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JaneC
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Posted - 13/09/2013 :  00:50:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The emigration and the immigration records match, and the young men could easily say they are bound for "Menominee" and the clerk wrongly assumes the state is Michigan rather than Wisconsin. I agree with Jan Peter.

And Ole Vollum at the sawmill in Menominee, Wisconsin, age 25, with comrades from his home parish is highly likely your Ole. His age was probably given by a supervisor or similar, rather than himself.

1880
Menomonie, Dunn, Wisconsin
Ole Vollum, age 25, single, born abt 1855 in Norway, parents born Norway, labors at sawmill
+ many more sawmill workers in this enumeration - it is a work-live place, not a home

Edited by - JaneC on 13/09/2013 00:52:11
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plnd94
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Posted - 13/09/2013 :  02:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the great discussion. Nice to have your confirmation that this is the right Ole. Great link, Jan Peter, for the Emigranter from Trondheim. I may have missed him because he left from Ørkedalen. With that tip, I found this - http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5723&idx_id=5723&uid=ny&idx_side=-362

Fun to see that the same 3 buddies travel together leaving Ørkedalen, on Emigranter list, and on Canadian Passenger list - Ole, Johan Fredriks, and Johan Tores.

Thanks again for great information!!
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/09/2013 :  08:23:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plnd94

Thanks for the great discussion. Nice to have your confirmation that this is the right Ole. Great link, Jan Peter, for the Emigranter from Trondheim. I may have missed him because he left from Ørkedalen. With that tip, I found this - http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5723&idx_id=5723&uid=ny&idx_side=-362

Fun to see that the same 3 buddies travel together leaving Ørkedalen, on Emigranter list, and on Canadian Passenger list - Ole, Johan Fredriks, and Johan Tores.

Thanks again for great information!!

Nice finding. He is listed with residence Hofsören.

Jan Peter
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eibache
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Posted - 13/09/2013 :  08:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Æres den som æres bør"?

Einar
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JaneC
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Posted - 13/09/2013 :  13:36:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha eibache, that is right.

Now a big thank you! to eibache for finding the emigration that we quoted. And congratulations, plnd94, on the record of the companions leaving for Amerika - worth framing I should think!

Edited by - JaneC on 13/09/2013 13:45:40
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plnd94
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Posted - 13/09/2013 :  16:38:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was puzzled by the Norwegian phrase by Einar, so I looked back on the posts. Then I realized that it was a gentlemanly way to point out my mistake - in not giving credit to the correct person for the great find on the Emigranter list. So my sincere apologies to Einar and double honors for finding the listing and for being so clever in your answer.
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plnd94
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Posted - 22/10/2013 :  01:36:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Update on family of Børre & Toresen & wife Magrete. Thanks to tip about Onarheims, I started looking for more branches. 1900 census states they had 13 children, with 8 alive. 5 born in Norway (2 died young) so they emigrated in 1868 with 3 children. 1880 census shows 6 more. 1900 census shows Syverine, born 1882. Dunn Co Peru Cemetery records show Regina, born 1884, died same year making a total of 13.

At Dunn Co. Historical Society, I found obituary for Theodore died 1952 (survived by sister Mrs. James Onarheim and brother Ole) and obituary for bachelor Ole died 1964 (last member of the family to die). Daughters - Goro married James (Jens Onarheim) who had 4 children from a previous marriage. Syverine married Theodore Lund (she died 1905 & Theodore married her cousin Ronnaug Brack). Lena (Livø) married Ole Wollum (have these descendants). Unaccounted for - Mary born 1870, Eda born 1876, and Thea 1874 (possibly married Ole Sperstad). Rest of children seem to have died young.

Kaare pointed to the Torgerson thread from May 2012. I figured out that Thora Brack (who married into the Peterson family) is related through her father Iver Thoresen Braæk born 1833. He is a brother to my Borre Thoresen.

Also found some information on Magrete's brothers who emigrated - Ole Skar, Ole Robertson, Rasmus Rasmussen.

1880 Peru Twp, census indexed as Buri Larison. Shows Lewis born Norway age 19 as brother. This may be Borre's nephew Lars age 5 on on 1865 Skjak census on Slette (son of Borre's brother Tore).

Thanks to Einar for good information on Lisbeth family on post from 02/09. And thanks to all for the incredible help on these families!

Edited by - plnd94 on 22/10/2013 03:41:22
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