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jim ht
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 Posted - 03/01/2004 : 20:10:51
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| Thanks Jo |
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hayley j
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/01/2004 : 21:29:05
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| hi jim. my name is hayley and i live in tewkesbury, gloucestershire. just out of the blue i came on this site looking for ancestors and you caught my eye. you don't by any chance have a relative living in tewkesbury by the name of william? could you please get back to me as i think we both might be chasing the same tail. |
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jim ht
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Posted - 06/01/2004 : 21:28:03
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Hi Hayley, yes tell my uncle Bill that if things pan out ok we might
be taking him back to his grandfathers stomping ground this year.....jim |
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jim ht
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2004 : 21:50:25
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Borge...... as you can see the Johansen family over here are getting quite excited. The begging letter to the Statsarkivet Oslo is allready posted, so, if their reply is positive, how do we find the local church in the Moss area that this family used? or the book that has the "parish records in"? Can we read it in English? If not can you/someone recommend a researcher who is a specialist in that area who we can contract to help.........and another question ( Im Sorry ) Axel was a boy servant at the "Consul Gerner" what was the Consul Gerner?
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JanTheMan
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Norway
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 09:49:01
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Hi Jim... Consul Gerner was Carl Ewald Gerner, born 1847, millowner, store owner and consul (according to the 1875-census). I might also be able to help you some more: I live in Moss, more precisely at Jeløy (see the 1865-census: "born Heløen?? near Moss", should be Jeløen near Moss) and my childrens school is the Reier School, close to the Reier farm. You are welcome to contact me for more assistance,
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jim ht
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 20:10:00
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Thanks Jan, so if it is the same Axel he was a servant for what seems a wealthy family, Thanks for the offer of help, like I said I,m trying not to make too many assumptions till I get a positive report off Oslo, but If it is him, there will be a thousand questions
that many I,m sure you will get sick of me. As it is, half the family from all over the UK are lurking this website now. Once again many thanks to you all...jim
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 21:57:56
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I am sure that we will be able to find some way of checking the church records for you, but we should get confirmation that this is the family we are looking for first.
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jim ht
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United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2004 : 22:13:01
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Knut
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Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2004 : 23:42:54
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Hi Jim.
I have been in contact with Jan. We are in the same family, a very big family which name was Gasmann (Gasmand), most of them where hammersmiths. I have followed them back to the end of 1500 when we belive they come from Germany to Sweden and they where building iron Works there. One of the sons Hans emigrated to Norway about 1690 and died there 106 year old! His sons and descendants where hammersmiths on most of the Iron Works in Southern Norway.
In the 1875 Census Johan Christophersen Reier was living i Verket 8 in Moss. I am born in the same house which is a very old house, built bye Moss Jernverk around 1750. Nearly all the houses in the street was built around 1750 and they are still in good condition. My family has been living there all the time in the same street.
Johan C.R was first married with Marthe Maria Olsdatter in 1830 but I do not think they had any children and was later married to Anne Caspara Jacobsdatter.
His father Christopher Johnsen Reier married to Maren Hansdatter.
His father Jon (John) Jansen Gasmann and his 2.nd wife Rønnou Gutormsdatter
His father Jan Hansen Gasmann married to Randi Engebretsdatter.
His father Hans Giliussen Gasmann married to Anna Larsdatter.
His father Gililius Gilliussen Gatzman married to Margareta Zahariasdatter.
His father G. Gillusson Gatzman.
I have two more which I am working with at the moment but this is very difficult since it is in the end of 1500 houndred with very little information about them. I have now around 1400 descendants.
I have far to much information about them to write it here so please send me your mailadress. If you have problems to get my adress please let me know.
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jim ht
Starting member
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2004 : 22:49:49
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Hi Knut, thanks very much for your reply, If I can definitely prove that my GGrandfather was in fact this Axel, it would be mind blowingly marvelous.....I havn,t had any word back yet from the Oslo seamens register archive, but Borge did warn me that they arn,t that keen on searching for people......As Axel and his brother Edward both died in England.......can you confirm that the
guys we are talking about were never buried local to Moss. My brother who is also researching, says he has found marriages for an Axel and an Edward on the IGI in the Moss/local area . So could they have deserted their families??? I think to live in the same house as all your ancestors must be great, and give you a real sense of pride and community. After all the help and goodwill I have found in such a short time on this site, I would consider it a privilege to be related........jim....oh and thank Jan |
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jim ht
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/01/2004 : 23:21:20
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Knut if you wanted a mail adress rather than email its
Jim Haynes
112 Brinkburn Crescent
Houghton le Spring
Tyne and Wear
DH45HA
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jim ht
Starting member
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2004 : 20:51:19
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| Hello again, well I got a reply from the Statsarkivet I Oslo, they first told me they didnt do searches, but some kind soul sent a page saying that Aksel Johansen was not registered as a seaman in Moss between 1875-1895. So, Borge,Jan,Knut where do I go from here. The only thing I can think of is to make sure that A.Johansen was never buried in Norway. Is there anyway you can help me? jim |
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Knut
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Norway
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 17:11:57
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Hi Jim.
I think that you have not received my mails of 24-1-2004 and probably not from 4-4-2004. If you have got any of them, tell me.
I sent you with post a letter with your ancestors and a map of Moss. I think you will have it soon.
As I told in the mail you can look at our homepage (Moss Aettehistorielag - Moss Family Historie Society) http://tvin.home.online.no and you will find two pictures of the street Verket (The Works) in Moss. The right picture shows the street long time ago and Verket 8 is in the other end and not on the picture. The left are of the the main building of Moss Jernverk (Konventionsgården) today main office of M.Peterson& Søn. That building are in the front of the right picture, close to the river and the waterfall. My adress on the homepage are not correct, so please dont use it.
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 20:07:39
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Knut
I think Jim is looking for a confirmation that this is really his family. We have still not found an actual source that can confirm that the Aksel Johansen we found in Moss is the man who went to sea and later settled in England and became his GGFather |
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jim ht
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United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2004 : 22:30:01
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| Hi, Knut, Borge, yes that is my dilema at the moment, to make sure he is the right Axel. I must be having trouble with my AOL mail address Knut, I normally use my company pc because its quicker, but I cant recieve emails on it and rely on my home pc for them, which dont seem to be working at the moment. I will check into it now....thanks a lot Jim |
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