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trennemo
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 17:09:45
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Could some one Please do a Census look up for me? I am looking for a Hendrik G. (Gunerius) Rennemo who was born about 1861-1862 in Noway, He looks to be from the place Beitstaden in Nord Trøndelag county.
Here is a list of ways I have found his name to have been spelled: Henrik Rennemo Henrik Rindmoe In the Ellis Island records, he is listed as "Henrie Rammews" (mistake by the transcriber) I don't have any information or names of his family member's. Thank-you in advance!!! |
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Lars
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 18:53:25
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I tried to look him up in the 1865 census at digitalarkivet.uib.no/index-eng.htm , but couldn't find that or similar names. Doesn't mean he's not there, might just require a little more patience or time. Plus, there's church and emigration records there. You should check it out when you get the chance. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 20:03:42
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Hi, I believe you should have put up a link to this topic...
I'm not 100% sure, but this could be your Hendrik in census 1865. He is one of only 3 "Henrik" at the right age in Beitstaden parish, and the only one who have a brother called Andreas.
Because: I found one Andreas Rennemo emigrating in 1894 at the right age. He is also going to Winnipeg Manitoba, the same dest. Hendrik had in 1893. He could be a brother...
The 1901 Ellis Island records shows Hendrik going to a brother in Minneapolis, but his name is hard to read...
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trennemo
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2004 : 00:00:29
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Jan, you are a wonder!!
I should have linked those two topics together but I don't know how! And you can do it by changing the words that takes a person to the link!!
Anyway, on the 1910 Ellis Island record, are you looking at the White Star list of manifest for Alien Immigrants? Do you know where a person could find a copy, that has the original headings listed? You know like they do with the Census records, so you can read what the columns are for? I see that Ingeborg also has something listed in that column but it also is hard to read.
On that 1865 census, is there are form of that in English?
Henrik Iverss. deres Søn ug 5 m Would that be equal to Iverssen (son)? All of them have a . after the name which looks unfinished? I don't know how to word this? Do you know if people who emigrated from Sweden, are they sometimes listed on the same digitalarkivet sight? I'm sorry to say that my knowledge of Norway and Sweden is very limited, but would the people leaving from sweden exit through Norwegian ports? I will ask the following question in a new topic, looking for a Gunhilda Jensen/Jenson/Karlson I know she had 2 brothers (Alex, Axel, Aleck and Gus, Gustav )and 1 Aunt who came to Minnesota, America. Again THANK-YOU for all your help!! Tracey
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2004 : 10:21:52
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Hi Tracey
I was thinking of this Ellis Island manifest.
It shows "Henrie Rammews" and "Ingeborg Rones" arriving on April 23rd, 1901. Henrie is #5 on the list, Ingeborg is #28. Coloumn 11 and 16 shows their destination, but it's really hard to interpret...
Census-1865 for Beitstaden parish, Nord Trøndelag: Farmname: Pynten
- Iver Andreassen, housefather, married, 40y, born in Throndhjem (ie. Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag county)
- Anne Martha Andreasdatter, his wife, married, 36y, born in Beitstaden parish
- Casber Iverssen, their son, not married, 10y, born in Beitstaden parish
- Olianna Iversdatter, their daughter, not married, 13y, born in Beitstaden parish
- Anna Mathea Iversdatter, their daughter, not married, 7y, born in Beitstaden parish
- Henrik Iverssen, their son, not married, 5y, born in Beitstaden parish
- Andreas Iversen, their son, nor married, 1y, born in Beitstaden parish
Iver[s]-sen means son of Iver, Iver[s]-datter means daughter of Iver.
Adding a link is easier than you think... Just hit the "globe" button above the message field when you're making a reply...
A lot of Swedes emigrated through the norwegian harbours, because Sweden don't have a very big western coastline towards the "promised land"... Swedish citizens can mostly be found emigrating through Oslo/Kristiania or Trondheim harbours. Many Swedes can also be found emigrating from Gothenburg, Sweden and probably Copenhagen, Denmark.
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trennemo
Starting member
USA
13 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2004 : 17:07:58
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Thank-you for the translation of the census! I must be getting better that's about what I thought it was saying! Is there any way to connect the last Name Rennemo with this family? Or is that a farm name or something? Is it also common for 2 middle names, like Iversen and Gunerius?
I was able to view that ships manifest and I can make out for Henriks destination as Minneapolis, MN. It sure looks like a "NO" for visiting a relative. Ingeborg is going to Minnespolis, MN also, but I can not make out who she lists as going to see!
As you said about Henrik and Andreas going to Manitoba Canada, is there any site that has information about people landing there?
Again thank you for the Sweden info as I have family that comes from there also. Even though we are pretty sure they came from Sweden nationality it shows some of them with place of origin as Norway?
I would like to add that just today I found more info about Hendrik's 2 children that died young on ancestry. Henry Gilbert Romens Died: 4 Jan. 1920-Beltrami County, MN Helga Everina Ronimo Died: 7 Jan. 1920-Beltrami county, MN I am pretty sure those are the right one, no one else with the last name Ronimo even shows up in America!!
If it wasn't for you I would have never thought about how misspelled people's last names can be! I have also ran across a lot of Renemo's (one N) I'm sure glad my Grandfather spelled ours with 2 N's I love writing my name!! I don't think I will ever give it up, must be part of my norwegian heritage that women kept their maiden names!! hehe Have a GREAT day! Tracey
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askeroi
Senior member
Norway
299 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2004 : 12:26:29
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I took a look for any farm called Rennemo in the 1865 cencus. And found only one - in Beitstaden. The main farmer on that carries the same patronymicon as the father and the mother of your Henrik. As the guy on Rennemo and Henriks mother both are born in Beitstaden (while Henrik's father isn't) I would say it's a qualified guess that they are brother and sister - and that their father (an Andreas) lived on the Rennemo farm, as the farmer there is owning his land. Henriks father isn't.
Here's Rennemo in the 1865 cencus:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal®ister=gardsnavn&pgj=366&teljing=ft1865&filnamn=f61727.wc2&amt=17&funnenr=388
Hope this will help.
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trennemo
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 16/03/2004 : 18:05:33
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Askeroi, Hello! I am confused by you reply. Could you please explain in futher detail what you see? I don't know which two links to compare and I am still not very good at the census info. The main farmer on the 1865 census has the same patronymicon at the father and mother of my Henrik?
What patronymicon is that? Which guy on the Rennemo and Henriks mother both are born in Beitstaden?
Who's brother and sister's?
Please help, Thanks Tracey |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 17/03/2004 : 01:08:24
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Hi Tracey, It was a bit confusing, but I believe askeroi put up a wrong link to the 1865-census...
I'm not a mindreader, but this must be the one she was thinking of.
The main farmer on the Rennemo farm in Beitstaden parish is Lars Andreassen, and he could be Anne Martha Andreasdatter's younger brother.
The patronymic Andreas indicates that both Anne Martha and Lars' father was an Andreas.
Lars' parents (Andreas Larssen 66 years and Guru Olsdatter 74 years) are still living on the Rennemo farm in 1865, so the big question is: Are they the parents of Anne Martha Andreasdatter on the Pynten farm also?
Jan
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 17/03/2004 : 01:41:29
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Hi again Tracey, looks like Lars and Anne Martha are brother and sister! click here
Anne Martha and Lars's parents are Andreas Larsen and Olava Sivertsdatter (married 03 DEC 1828), so Guru Olsdatter in the 1865-census must be their stepmother. Their mother Olava must have died before the census, and Anders got re-married.
The records are submitted by Newell H. Erickson 1765 PALOMA STREET PASADENA CA USA 91104
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William Earl Anderson 24903 ISLAND AVE CARSON CA USA 90745
Jan
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askeroi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2004 : 12:01:57
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Sorry for being away for some days. And sorry about the wrong link - it was one step too early in the search prosess. But it all ended well - Jan IS a very good mindreader... |
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trennemo
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 23/03/2004 : 01:30:04
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Hi again,
I also am sorry I have been away from here for so many days! I went back to work full time.
Thanks again both of you for all your efforts, they DO mean so much to me. I haven't had time yet to check out the latest news and it's killing me!!!
One thing I keep thinking of, is that my Grandfather Ingvar Rennemo, tried to find a connection years and years ago to the Rennemo family in California and never could??? Wouldn't it be something if now days with all the information at our hands, I would be able to connect the two families.
I had at one time ran across the records submitted by Newell H. Erickson, but discarded them as I didn't have enough names to go on at that time!! But now thanks to you, I do!! I will still be here from time to time with more questions!!!
Thanks again, Tracey |
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