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Berta
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Posted - 22/03/2004 :  16:44:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello!

I am looking for the following person:
24.06.1886 25.06.1886 Richard Oscar Melby (Moe)
Dreng 15 Skeberg
To:
New York
Agent:
Blichfeldt
Ship:
Rollo

I think the journy was prepaid.

Anyone who has any idea?

His Father was: Magnus Zachariassen Melleby and his morther was: Karen Thorine Melleby
Berta

Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 23/03/2004 :  02:41:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure what you are hoping to find. What idea are you looking for?
But there is a Richard A. Melby living in Portland, Multnomah Co., Oregon USA in the 1910 US census - listed then as 39 years old. In that census he is married to an Anna from Germany with 3 daughters - Cora, Marian and Grace - and one son - Richard. He is the proprietor of a restaurant and notes in that census that he came to the US in 1885?? (hard to read)? That census also notes that his father was Norwegian and his mother Danish.
In 1920 the same man, but listed as Richard O. Melby, is found in Los Angeles, California with the same family members. Can't quite read what his occupation is but he is definitely working in another restaurant. In this census he does not say that his mother was from Denmark - but it appears that she was also Norwegian.
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Berta
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Posted - 23/03/2004 :  11:35:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow!

Thank you for your help!
I see now that I really didn't ask any questions.

I guess I couldn't get this much information as you have provided!.. But weren't there any census in 1890? which would be the closest to his arrival in the US?

I think you really may have found Richard. And if you could check the 1890-cenus.. well I would really be grafeful for your help!

Was he living, when the 1930 census was registred?

Berta
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 23/03/2004 :  19:25:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, there was a US federal census in 1890 - but almost every bit of it was destroyed somehow - so no longer available. That 20 years between the 1880 and the 1900 is a great time period to look for state censuses and other possible local records.
I don't have access to the 1930 census for the state of California. I will try to look Richard's family up again in those two earlier censuses and see if I can get any hints for you from the listed birthplaces of the children - but that might have to wait several hours - got work to do first.
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Brining
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USA
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Posted - 23/03/2004 :  20:43:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi They are recorded in the California Death index.

MELBY RICHARD O Born 1871 03 10 Mother's last name OLSEN Fathers last name MELBY MALE LOS ANGELES Date of death 1942 08 08 age 71

Anna died 10/19/1938

and possibly their son
Last_Name,First_Name,Middle_Name,B_yr,B_mo,B_dy,Mothers_Last_Name
MELBY RICHARD HERBERT 1899 12 25 DETRICK
Fathers_Last_Name,Sex,Bp,County_of_Death,D_yr,D_mo,D_dy
MELBY MALE ID LOS ANGELES 1950 12 15
It is not an easy site to navigate and you do have to register as a guest. Here is the link
Click Here
Carla
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Berta
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Posted - 23/03/2004 :  22:17:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is like a box opening, and I am really grateful for the information!

I have also searched .. And I found the same. So he died in California, LA.

Wonder where he lived. And if there is any living decendants of him. He was the cousin of my great great grandfather.

Berta
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Berta
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Posted - 23/03/2004 :  22:27:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
by the way..

In the search, there is a column which says: "bp", which I guess is "birthplace". But what does "RE" in this column stand for?
Berta
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Brining
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USA
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Posted - 24/03/2004 :  02:43:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi "RE" stands for rest or any place they don't have a code for.
This site click here has access to a lot more info. Select Las Angeles county. They have city directories and I found the Melby family in 1920 living at 515 Stanford, the restaurant at 419 So Main.
Carla
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Berta
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Posted - 24/03/2004 :  10:54:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the tip!

I tried also to search the 1930, and I found them.. but it is a bit hard to read.

It is on page 01579-00

Berta
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Hopkins
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Posted - 24/03/2004 :  18:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When the family was in Portland, Oregon for the 1910 census it lists that the oldest child, Cora (f-12yrs) was born in Washington. All the younger children born in Oregon Richard is noted as being a naturalized citizen with a year of 1894 - so that event should have taken place in Oregon.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 24/03/2004 :  23:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding your original posting. The ship Rollo was a feeder ship operated by the Wilson Line to transport passengers from Kristiania to Hull, England. From Hull, they were taken by train to Liverpool to board their transatlantic ship.

Per the Index of Departures and Agents/Shipping Lines Indexes on this site, in 1886, F.E. Blickfeldt was the agent for the Cunard Lines and would have arranged the passage all the way through to the final destination.

I could not find Richard Oscar Melby (Moe) or even Magnussen on the New York Immigratant database on Ancestry.com.

There is a good article about the Cunard Line under Shipping Lines, their route was from Liverpool to either New York or Boston.
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Berta
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Posted - 25/03/2004 :  11:21:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And the information keeps on coming! Great! I have emailed the library in LA, if they could provide any information on the restaurant. I mean. it could still be in action.. maybe..


Berta
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Berta
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Posted - 25/03/2004 :  13:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The naturalisation records.. How do I see them? Is it possible to view them online?

And if the naturalisation happened in 1894, it wouldn't then happened in Washington? Since Cora was born in 1898 (1910-12), and she was born in Washington?


And thank you for searching for Richard onAncestory.com for me.. But are there records online for arrivals to New York before 1892?


Berta


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Berta
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Posted - 30/03/2004 :  21:11:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't gotten any answer from the library. I guess they don't answer such requests.

Is there anyone,who is living in LA that knows anything about this restaurant, or this family, or can help me to sites where I can find anything about it.

How do I procced in finding possible decendants to Richard and his children?

I only got the adress for the restaurant or café, how do I find the name, if there was any?

Berta
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Berta
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Posted - 22/04/2004 :  18:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello everybody!

I hope that there may be somone out there who read about this from LA, and maybe is familiar with the places and persons in this topic!

Or maybe somone else could help me further. I still haven't got any answers from the library, so I guess they ignore it...

Berta
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Berta
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Posted - 02/06/2004 :  15:43:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello again! I don't give up on Richard and his family.. ;)

Anyway..
I came up with something.. If I know the date Richard died. , which was 0808 1941 in Los Angeles, according to the California Death Index. Is there possible to find an obituary? Was ther many papers in LA at the time?
And maybe same thing for the other members of his family? Anna Melby died i 1938, same place.

The last adress of Cora and Richard H. is in r411 S. Humphreys av. LA from the city directory
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